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Installing New ORC?

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8N'r

03-01-2006 15:23:00




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I saw Mike"s problems with getting his old ORC off. A couple months ago I asked the board about using a rotary mower and bought a new ORC to use this spring. Are there any tricks to putting it on or should the ORC slide on the PTO shaft without any problem? The shaft on my tractor doesn"t have any rust on it,there is a small amount of grease in the new ORC, and the directions seem simple enough. Thanks--Tim

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Dean

03-02-2006 05:33:21




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 Re: Installing New ORC? in reply to 8N'r, 03-01-2006 15:23:00  
8N'r:

The best advice that I can give you regarding an ORC is to buy a good one. There are lots of poor quality ORCs available and they will not hold up nearly as good as a good one will. Also, be sure to grease it regularly. It will last much longer if you do.

Dean



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JoePilot

03-01-2006 17:20:46




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 Re: Installing New ORC? in reply to 8N'r, 03-01-2006 15:23:00  
Well, there's two kinds of PTO shafts. If you have the "quick release" grove around the circumference of the the shaft, then a quick release ORC should slip on easy as snot.

Otherwise, there will be a hole through the shaft, and you have to use a spring pin ORC. This was the case with my '51 8N.

To install the spring (or roll) pin ORC, you have to remove the two zirc fittings. Then slip the ORC on the PTO shaft, and pound the pin through the holes. When it is completely seated, replace the zirc fittings and add lots of grease.

Now, I had heard how this process was easier said than done, and that you have to really wail on the pin to make it go in. So that is what I did. To no avail. In fact, I pretty much goobered up the pin, and it's a wonder I didn't bend my PTO shaft...

Turns out, the ORC that I got from Agri-Supply was just a bit too long in the butt end, and would not go on the shaft far enough for the holes to line up properly. It looked good, until I shined a light through it. The I could tell that there was an offset. Bummer! So I took the dang ORC over to the bench grinder and ground off a quarter inch or so, until it fit. Then I did my best to straighten out the pin, and had no trouble getting it in after that.

So my advice is to be very sure the holes are lined up perfectly. Then it shouldn't be too hard to get the pin to go in.

Good luck!

Joe

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8N'r

03-02-2006 04:29:04




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 Re: Installing New ORC? in reply to JoePilot, 03-01-2006 17:20:46  
Joe-My 8N is a 51 and has the hole in the PTO shaft. I bought a spring pin ORC from Farm and Fleet(not knowing there were 2 kinds--lucky). I will do some measuring before I slip(hopefully not pound) the new ORC on the shaft. I hope I dont have to do any grinding off the end!! I am going to pick up a roll pin punch to help in getting the pin in. Thanks for the help!!! This will save me time,$$, and headaches as I only get to my N on weekends to work and play with it---Tim

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JoePilot

03-02-2006 15:24:47




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 Re: Installing New ORC? in reply to 8N'r, 03-02-2006 04:29:04  
Glad to help.

Just to be clear, though, the ORC should slip easily onto the PTO shaft. It is the pin that takes some work to insert. The punch is a good idea. After you slip the ORC onto the PTO shaft, line up the holes and shine a light through. You should be able to tell if it went on far enough. The holes have to line up perfect! Otherwise, that pin won't go in, no matter how hard you hit it:-)

Good luck,

Joe

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8N'r

03-02-2006 15:40:43




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 Re: Installing New ORC? in reply to JoePilot, 03-02-2006 15:24:47  
Joe--I called the Distributor in Iowa that wholesales the ORC's to Farm and Fleet--he said nobody had ever questioned him about this, but did say he has had people call and tell him they had to drill another hole in the PTO shaft on their rig in order to put the pin in because the splines/holes did not line up---he did not think that was a good idea----I will know if it works in a week---thanks again

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Dave L

03-01-2006 17:10:52




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 Re: Installing New ORC? in reply to 8N'r, 03-01-2006 15:23:00  
Hey 8 I put one on my 9 and they just slide right on,and as you said the instructions are pretty easy after that
Happy mowing
Dave



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8N'r

03-02-2006 04:30:38




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 Re: Installing New ORC? in reply to Dave L, 03-01-2006 17:10:52  
Dave---hope mine goes on just as easy---cant wait for spring to get out in the field!!! Tim



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