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Alan Oklahoma

03-05-2006 12:33:16




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My clutch keeps sticking. I can unstick the clutch to use the tractor, but how do I keep it from sticking each time I release the clutch?




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david b guest

03-05-2006 16:00:14




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 Re: Stuck clutch in reply to Alan Oklahoma, 03-05-2006 12:33:16  
Careful you don't flip the bad boy when resurfacin' the clutch on your apple tree. Maybe reverse is safer. Had a friend die doingsomething like that. DG



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old

03-05-2006 12:49:45




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 Re: Stuck clutch in reply to Alan Oklahoma, 03-05-2006 12:33:16  
When ever you park the tractor put a block or tie the pedel down. One of my 8Ns does the same thing and I just keep a cement block around to set on the pedel when ever I park it. Hasn't stuck since I started doing that.



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FarmerDawn

03-05-2006 12:48:20




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 Re: Stuck clutch in reply to Alan Oklahoma, 03-05-2006 12:33:16  
Mine is still stuck (rust, for sure), but since it IS stuck I've collected lots of ideas for unsticking. The best for your situation, where it's ok in use, seems to be putting a big cinder block on the clutch pedal when you're not driving, when the tractor is off and parked. Apparently this keeps it from sticking up again. I hope this helps!

Dawn



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Joe (IN)

03-05-2006 15:17:00




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 Re: Stuck clutch in reply to FarmerDawn, 03-05-2006 12:48:20  
That block on the clutch pedal trick is fine if the tractor still sees occasional use, but beware doing that if you intend to store the machine for an extended period of time. I've got a Ferguson TO-20 in the shop right now that I had to split to work on the clutch. The previous owner had blocked the clutch pedal down and left it. For a LONG time. Mice, moisture, time, and "mouse byproducts" conspired to rust the clutch in the DISENGAGED position! I had to pound the throwout bearing off of the input shaft housing. The pressure plate and and disc were trashed and the flywheel had to be resurfaced. Just something to think about.

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FarmerDawn

03-05-2006 15:31:54




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 Re: Stuck clutch in reply to Joe (IN), 03-05-2006 15:17:00  
Wow. That's an awesomely terrifying story. Well, it didn't work on mine anyway, so maybe that's all for the better in the end, huh? Although the pictures I'm studying of the clutch and all that are pretty intimidating, still. But I'm gonna' do 'er!



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8N'r

03-05-2006 13:34:01




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 Re: Stuck clutch in reply to FarmerDawn, 03-05-2006 12:48:20  
Dawn--do you remember (did you save) the post within the last 6 months that somebody used to free up a stuck clutch by drilling a small hole in the housing, spraying fluid to "unstick" the clutch and then tapping the clutch from outside of the tractor throught the hole to unfreeze? This post was mentioned to me when I was trying to identify a Screw that is placed in the housing on my tractor, I spent 2 hours looking for it in the archives with no luck. Thought I would ask you if you had it saved somewhere. Thanks

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FarmerDawn

03-05-2006 14:28:01




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 Found it!! in reply to 8N'r, 03-05-2006 13:34:01  
It was Paul in MN who posted it, at the link below. It's in the body of text in the post 6th down from the top on that page (I think). Here is the relevant passage, quoted:

"As to the clutch problem, I have had that happen somewhat often in among the 6 or so 8n's that I service for other people. One guy tried crossing the creek and nearly filled the bell housing with water. Let me tell you, the clutch rusted tight on that one. Usual wisdom would be to split the tractor and clean the flywheel and pressure plate of rust and replace the clutch disc. A bunch of work, and about $100 in parts as I see it. So I tried a different approach, figuring that I could always go back to this solution. Being as it was an early 8n without the hole in the side of the bell housing that the later ones have for the timing marks, well, I took a good guess as to where, and then drilled a 1/2" hole in the side of the bell housing casting, hoping to line up with the fiber clutch disc. I guessed good enough to get a long 3/8" tapered punch in the hole and up against the side edge of the clutch disc, and gave it a smart whap with BFH (Big Friggin Hammer)while the clutch pedal is depressed, and then rotated the engine about 90 deg, and repeated the whapping , and another 90 deg, etc. It popped loose, freed from its prison of rust. Now the tractor could be run, but the clutch was real jumpy, so I nudged the front bumper up against a stout tree and deliberately "burned the clutch" by running it in 4th gear with partial engagement. That cleared enough of the rust that the clutch was now smooth and predictable. Problem solved, cost almost nothing. Put cork plug in drilled hole to keep rain water out."

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FarmerDawn

03-05-2006 14:07:23




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 Re: Stuck clutch in reply to 8N'r, 03-05-2006 13:34:01  
Actually, I remember when you mentioned it and I was certain I had it but didn't find it in my files. So I searched the forum archives, too, because I was sure I remembered someone else as having posted it. Since neither of us have found it, let me search the files on my computer again. There are some I saved in a bizarre way that's made it hard to locate them again (no, I don't know how I did that), so I will do a search by date. I think it was pretty recent, maybe December or January. --Dawn

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8N'r

03-05-2006 16:57:52




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 Re: Stuck clutch in reply to FarmerDawn, 03-05-2006 14:07:23  
Yep--that was the post. I am going to have take a picture of the "screw" I have in my housing to see if anyone thinks it was put their to free up the clutch. I have the later model N that has the timing mark hole already in the housing and is located only about 4 inches from the mystery "screw". Thanks for the help in locating for me---Tim



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FarmerDawn

03-05-2006 17:01:05




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 Re: Stuck clutch in reply to 8N'r, 03-05-2006 16:57:52  
Sure thing, Tim! I'm glad to help!!!! :-D



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Alan Tiefenbrun

03-05-2006 12:59:44




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 Re: Stuck clutch in reply to FarmerDawn, 03-05-2006 12:48:20  
Thanks for the ideas, but putting a cement block on the pedal or a wooden block between pedal and housing to keep pedal depressed when not in use only masks my problem. How do I keep it from sticking all the time (without splitting the tractor hopefully)? It also still does this when in use.



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Alan Oklahoma

03-19-2006 12:13:36




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 Re: Stuck clutch in reply to Alan Tiefenbrun, 03-05-2006 12:59:44  
Thanks to everyone for your good ideas. I bit the bullet and split the tractor (not as bad as I thought) replaced the clutch plate cleaned up the mess and now the clutch works perfect. It had some "grease or ooze" on the surfaces (not wet looking) mostly on the clutch plate. Only took me 8 hours to do probably a two to three hour job. Thanks for your help.



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old

03-05-2006 15:45:29




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 Re: Stuck clutch in reply to Alan Tiefenbrun, 03-05-2006 12:59:44  
Only way to fix it the right waqy is to split the tractor and repair seals and or put in a new clutch. Or all of the above.



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Joe (IN)

03-05-2006 15:09:13




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 Re: Stuck clutch in reply to Alan Tiefenbrun, 03-05-2006 12:59:44  
Rust isn't the only cause of a sticking clutch. A leaky input shaft seal can allow thick, gooey transmission fluid to puke into the clutch mechanism and cause the disc to stick to the flywheel. If yours is sticking while in operation, this is a real possibility in your case. Unfortunately, the only real cure for the symtom AND the problem is a split for a new clutch and input shaft seal. If the thought of splitting it is scaring you, take heart. It ain't no big thing. A couple decent floor jacks and some blocks of wood are about all you need besides some hand tools. Only takes about 45 minutes to split. Not nearly as tough as it sounds. Another thing to check is your clutch linkage. I've heard of cracks in the linkage arms that will open up when the pedal is pressed instead of transferring the mechanical force to the pressure plate and releasing the clutch. Good luck!

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FarmerDawn

03-05-2006 17:10:03




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 Re: Stuck clutch in reply to Joe (IN), 03-05-2006 15:09:13  
"A leaky input shaft seal can allow thick, gooey transmission fluid to puke into the clutch mechanism" -- boy, have you ever got a way with words!! LOL Seriously, that is VERY clear.

Although I am going for "45 *days*" on the split . . . :-)

Dawn



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FarmerDawn

03-05-2006 13:03:31




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 Re: Stuck clutch in reply to Alan Tiefenbrun, 03-05-2006 12:59:44  
Hm. Well, you've got me there. I'm having to split my tractor to fix mine, so . . . Guess this is the end of the advice road for me. :-) Sorry about that.

Dawn



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