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HYDRAULICS STUCK ON 8N-----PLEASE HELP!!!

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Old8Ner

05-01-2001 21:11:48




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I'm sure this has been answered before,but I got my 8N out to mow today,let the lift up and it won't come down.Kinda hard to mow like that!!!I tried working the lever up and down several times,but nothing happened.Any help appreciated.THANKS!!




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Fessman

05-02-2001 05:22:14




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 Re: HYDRAULICS STUCK ON 8N-----PLEASE HELP!!! in reply to Old8Ner, 05-01-2001 21:11:48  
I have the same problem as you and I address this problem by not raising heavy implements. My hydraulics also leak slightly, and after a small amount of leaking down, followed by cycling the lever arm several times it will come unstuck. note: once it is stuck I stop the pto. I.E. turn off the tractor, disengage the pto, or hold in the clutch.

Now that Zane has posted the solution I will have to check it out and see if I can solve this problem. I do know the oil is very clean, so I will have to do some disassembling.

Fessman

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Caller

05-02-2001 04:39:28




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 Re: HYDRAULICS STUCK ON 8N-----PLEASE HELP!!! in reply to Old8Ner, 05-01-2001 21:11:48  
And I thought I was the only one who would pay three times somethings worth. I can feel your pain clear down here in Missouri.

Caller
Still using a 2N daily



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ZANE

05-02-2001 03:39:05




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 Re: HYDRAULICS STUCK ON 8N-----PLEASE HELP!!! in reply to Old8Ner, 05-01-2001 21:11:48  
You have a sticking control valve.

This can be a combination of problems.

The first thing that can cause it to stick is dirty oil. The N hydraulics has no filter system and any and all foriegn material that enters the differential, transmission or the lift settles in the lower reaches of the lift. Unfortunately that is the home of the control valve and oil intake too.

The best thing to do to remedy this dirty problem is to pull the pump out of the tractor and clean it. The other thing you can do is to drain all three places and rince the lift out with 5 gallons of kerosene. Pour it in as fast as you can through the inspection hole. Allow it to settle for a while and then pour it through again leaving the residue in the bottom of the container and discarding it. Do this untill no residue is in the bottom of the catch container.

Add new oil.

If you do take the pump out you should take the control valve and spring out of the pump and inspect the control valve for any wear patterns that might make it want to stick. The control valve can be polished by turning it in some wet or dry 300 grit sandpaper to smooth out any imperfections. This will make the vavle fit a little looser in it's bushing but if you don't get too carried away at it the difference in size will be inconsequential.

The return spring that pushes the control valve back to the unload position can break or become weak from age and fatigue. Make sure it has enough tension to do a good job of pushing the valve back. If it is too weak the valve will not come back to the unload position with a heavy load on the lift no matter how clean or good fitting the valve is.

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Steve IA

05-02-2001 02:57:06




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 Re: HYDRAULICS STUCK ON 8N-----PLEASE HELP!!! in reply to Old8Ner, 05-01-2001 21:11:48  
Mine does this occasionally too, and I know how FRUSTRATING it can be. I'm guessing it is due to too much weigh/pressure on the valve that lets the releases the oil to let the thing down. It may settle down by itself over time which will solve your problem - this time. I have found that if I disconnect the PTO shaft and pull up the quadrant lever the thing attached will rise again and that will relieve the pressure and then it will lower. You may have to pull the inspection plate on the right side and with the engine off, reach in and help the valve at the bottom of the control rod. I'm guessing the rod is bent and may be flexing as you work the quadrant and not activating the valve at the other end. Hopefully you've figger'd all this out by the time you read this and have your mowing done. My trick to avoid this is not to raise a heavy implement to full height and leave it there for a long time. If I need to travel field to field, I lower the mower about 1/3 of the way and then I don't seem to have this problem. HTH and good luck. Steve 8N 169302

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