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8N'r

03-20-2006 09:58:09

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As a 1st year "bushwacker" I have read and continue to read all I can about brush hog use and safety. The archives lists info on the Differences between the Drawbar Stays and Stabilizer Bars. Drawbar Stays attach between the top pin and the end of lift bars and the Heavier Stabilizers from under the axle to the end of the lift bars. I know you cant raise the lift bars w/o bending the drawbar stays, so was not planning on using them for the brush hoggin'. My question then is the use of the Heavier Stabilizers a MUST DO when using the brush hog, and would you want to use your stay bars only for pulling wagons, etc?

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Tom NJ

03-20-2006 17:54:12

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Re: Another bushwackin question in reply to 8N'r, 03-20-2006 09:58:09

I could add one thing, put the ORC on the brush hog next to the mower makes one less thing to hookup. I also changed the PTO shaft to 1 3/8 on my 8N.

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FirsteverN

03-20-2006 13:19:56

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Re: Another bushwackin question in reply to 8N'r, 03-20-2006 09:58:09

Any one have a photo of the limiter chain set up? I run my hog with an ORC, but maintaining height has been an issue

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StahlMaster

03-20-2006 14:36:34

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Re: Another bushwackin question in reply to FirsteverN, 03-20-2006 13:19:56

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( Pic ) Ken N Tx

03-20-2006 14:34:10

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Re: Another bushwackin question in reply to FirsteverN, 03-20-2006 13:19:56

Limit Chains

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FirsteverN

03-20-2006 14:41:58

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Re: Another bushwackin question in reply to ( Pic ) Ken N Tx, 03-20-2006 14:34:10

Thanks, Ken and Stahlmaster, that really help my understanding of how this all works.

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RFD

03-20-2006 11:23:49

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Re: Another bushwackin question in reply to 8N'r, 03-20-2006 09:58:09

So how can I tell if I have an ORC???

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( Pic ) Ken N Tx

03-20-2006 14:37:16

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Re: Another bushwackin question in reply to RFD, 03-20-2006 11:23:49

ORC

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RFD

03-20-2006 12:00:41

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Re: Another bushwackin question in reply to RFD, 03-20-2006 11:23:49

Thanks for the easy trick to see if i have one, I have never had the push I hear of when shredding with out one.

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8N'r

03-20-2006 11:59:15

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Re: Another bushwackin question in reply to RFD, 03-20-2006 11:23:49

RFD---on the left side on this site, under Research and Info---click on Articles and read the one titled "Choosing, Mounting and Using a Bush Hog Type Mower" by Francis Robinson---He discusses use of the Over Running Clutch---I have marked this for mandatory reading once a year as long as I am using the mowers---

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8N'r

03-20-2006 11:44:55

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Re: Another bushwackin question in reply to RFD, 03-20-2006 11:23:49

ORC--stands for Over-running coupler. Your PTO on the N's is a six spline 1 1/8" OD unit. Most implements today run off of a 1 3/8" shaft, so you can either get an "adapter" to change the 1 1/8" to the 1 3/8" end to accept the implements or use the ORC which adds the safety feature. The inertia produced by an implement can "run" your tractor even though you have put in the clutch and applied the brakes and could cause your tractor to continue moving with no control. You can find additional info (more detailed than my short explanation) in the archives that will define what I am trying to say. The ONE THING I do know from my helpers on this site, is NEVER run a bush hog mower off of an N tractor without the ORC!!!---Good Luck

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old

03-20-2006 11:37:42

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Re: Another bushwackin question in reply to RFD, 03-20-2006 11:23:49

An ORC is installed by the user of the tractor not a factory part. To see if you have one put your PTO in gear, and with the engine off/not running. Grab the pto shaft and turn it by hand if it turns one way but not the other you have an ORC on it.

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8N'r

03-20-2006 11:05:54

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Re: Another bushwackin question in reply to 8N'r, 03-20-2006 09:58:09

Sound Advice from All----ORC was put on the N, Bought the Limiter chains 2 weeks ago--- based on previous posts. I will buy the Stabilizer Kit because most of my mowing is going to be done between rows of trees planted last spring (19 Acres of em) and I dont want to mow down the little fellas with a swaying hog!! As always, GREAT BOARD, GREAT INFO--Thanks and have a safe spring mowing season!!

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8N'r

03-20-2006 11:12:05

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Re: Another bushwackin question--THANKS in reply to 8N'r, 03-20-2006 11:05:54

Please read previous post---

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old

03-20-2006 10:46:49

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Re: Another bushwackin question in reply to 8N'r, 03-20-2006 09:58:09

To add to what Tom said about the hat, never carry your wallet in your pocket when brush hogging. They seem to work there way out and the brush hog is very hard on the wallet and any thing you might have in it. Believe me its hard to spend money after a brush hog has eaten it LOL

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Tim...Ok

03-20-2006 10:37:42

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good info in reply to 8N'r, 03-20-2006 09:58:09

Something I learned years ago while brush hoggin, to add to all the useful info already here..Never,ever,under any circumstances,wear your favorite hat while mowin :) one low tree limb drags it off your head,wanna take a guess where it falls? you suddenly hear that dreaded sound of ppffooop as your hat exits the rear of the hog at the speed of light.. if your gonna wear one,wear one that was destined for the garbage can anyway..

Tim

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DON TX

03-20-2006 14:44:24

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or cell phones in reply to Tim...Ok, 03-20-2006 10:37:42

I haven't lost a cell phone yet, but I try to remember to make sure it's secure and locked in. I DON'T want to replace mine w/o the sims card. I'd never get all the #s back. I have lost my favorite hat. HTH
DON TX

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Bill(Wis)

03-20-2006 19:27:24

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Re: or cell phones in reply to DON TX, 03-20-2006 14:44:24

Zane Sherman's dog ate Zane's cell phone one time. He eventually got it back. Ask him about it sometime.

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DON TX

03-20-2006 19:32:58

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Re: or cell phones in reply to Bill(Wis), 03-20-2006 19:27:24

I've been around long enuff to remember when it ate it and when it passed it. Very funny story. I'm sure it's in the archives. DON TX

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FarmerDawn

03-20-2006 10:44:36

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Re: good info in reply to Tim...Ok, 03-20-2006 10:37:42

OH NO!! LOL! OK, that one goes into my files. It would happen to me for SURE!

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gahorN

03-21-2006 14:14:32

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Re: good info in reply to FarmerDawn, 03-20-2006 10:44:36

For Xmas I rec'd a very funny book about a dog "Harley, Living with the World's Worst Dog", (?) and I really didn't want to read it, but admit it was very entertaining after I got started. Anyway.... Harley ate the wife's gold necklace, and the husband followed that dog for a week before it was finally "returned". He said that not even the jeweler had ever got that necklace as polished and brite as Harley's special treatment... Something about the digestive juices I guess... Anyway....as repugnant as the event sounds...it was actually a funny and well written book. (The description of the suspicious neighbors watching him, out in the yard in the dark, evening after evening, sifting through the "remains" prospecting for gold ...was a hilarious bit of imagining.)

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Dell (WA)

03-20-2006 10:13:22

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Re: Another bushwackin question in reply to 8N'r, 03-20-2006 09:58:09

8N'r..... ....as you've learned, the drawbar stays between the top-link and the 11-hole drawbar prevents lift-up. Its principle use is for backing-up trailers hooked to the 11-hole drawbar. Reason? Yer hydraulics have NO DOWNFORCE to keep the 11-hole bar down. You doubt? You can eazily lift the 11-hole drawbar with tractor OFF.

For brushhoggin', I recommend "Limiter chains". Connected between the top-link and the brushhogg lower links. Chains will take the weight of the brushhogg off'n yer hydraulics and keep a constant brushhogg mowin' height. ...but... heres the neat thing about chains, they collapse when you need to lift yer mower over obsticals. And when you let yer hydraulic lift down, the chains return the mower to yer pre-set mowing height..... ....Dell, yer self-appointed ORC safety preacher

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gahorN

03-20-2006 10:39:00

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Re: Another bushwackin question in reply to Dell (WA), 03-20-2006 10:13:22

Good words, as always, from Dell. But the use of stabilizer bars (either alone or in conjuction with chains) will also prevent excessive "sway" (side-to-side) from occuring, making the cut-swath more accurate and also prevent a loose shredder from swinging too close to rear wheels.

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