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FarmerDawn

03-31-2006 19:01:35

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I see this time you waited to try and throw your poison dart until the thread was on the second page. Afraid someone besides me will see it? Afraid that a woman -- a 53-year old woman at that -- can have fun learning and doing tractor restoration, regardless of outcome?

I won't read any more of your posts. And I am going to state here and now that you are simply a mean-spirited, nasty, intentionally undercutting person whose only interest in posting to me is to make your own small self feel better. Hell, you don't even use your own, real name. Coward! The first time you did this, I tried to turn away your nastiness with at least a calm word. But no more. You are not "warning" me or anything else. You are being intentionally, with conscious intent, mean. And that doesn't tell me about ME. It tells me about YOU.

Dawn

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chris cogburn

04-04-2006 15:33:41

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Re: No Doubt, Calling You Out in reply to FarmerDawn, 03-31-2006 19:01:35

Add another vote for Dawn. ND's remarks were totally uncalled for. Keep up the good work, we're all watching the progress.

Funny how jerks always show up in a forum eventually. I knew the minute I found this site what the character of the place is, and all the folks standing up for Dawn proves it.

Happy Tractoring!

chris

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FarmerDawn

04-04-2006 15:47:38

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Re: No Doubt, Calling You Out in reply to chris cogburn, 04-04-2006 15:33:41

Thank you, Chris! I really appreciate your vote of confidence! :-) --Dawn

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Colin King

04-01-2006 09:23:30

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Re: No Doubt, Calling You Out in reply to FarmerDawn, 03-31-2006 19:01:35

Dear Dawn,

Your work is an inspiration for us other new members of the N preservation family. I read every one of your posts, and the posts of all the other great folks on this site, and have learned much over the past few months. Thank you for your detailed progress reports and descriptions!

Colin
MN

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John N KY

04-01-2006 06:10:52

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Re: No Doubt, Calling You Out in reply to FarmerDawn, 03-31-2006 19:01:35

I seldom post but do read this site every day. For nearly 20 years I worked in a Federal re-training program that taught heavy equipment mechanics. With out fail, the women that had a real desire to learn and DO were far better than the men. Granted they did not have the body strength and had to improvise in a lot of cases in dealing with the heavier work, they were great in the details. They did not come with an attitude. The men after being shown something had the attitude of been there, seen that, while the women wanted to UNDERSTAND why you did something/procedure the way you did. It is plain to see you have the desire and drive to learn and do this. Just rememver those that poke and make fun are those that CANNOT DO! YOU CAN AND ARE. Hang in there.

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FarmerDawn

04-01-2006 06:24:00

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Re: No Doubt, Calling You Out in reply to John N KY, 04-01-2006 06:10:52

Thanks for the support, John. I sure can empathize with the women in your program - wanting to learn but not being as physically strong as the men are. Whew! Thank goodness for you guys' "tips and tricks" ideas, and your emphasis on safety. I pay close attention to those things and it's all that has kept me from having an accident several times so far. Even then, that engine darned near got away from us the other day. Again and again, I am just plain impressed by the strength and ingenuity you guys show in the "simple" jobs you do and report on with such casual aplomb. The more I learn and experience, the more you guys are simply and really heroic in my eyes.

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Empennage

04-01-2006 06:06:12

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Re: No Doubt, Calling You Out in reply to FarmerDawn, 03-31-2006 19:01:35

I was sitting here smiling thinking of something witty and articulate to say but then after reading the post I realized that No Doubt needs therapy. And there is nothing funny about that.

I have an older sister that waited to get help until she was in her late 40"s. She wasted most of he life away, what a shame.

Keep up the good work Dawn. I am behind you as are many more on this board. You (and Jo too) are our therapy.

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vtscott

04-01-2006 05:42:45

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Re: No Doubt, Calling You Out in reply to FarmerDawn, 03-31-2006 19:01:35

StahlMaster..... .

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Empennage

04-01-2006 06:12:31

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Re: No Doubt, Calling You Out in reply to vtscott, 04-01-2006 05:42:45

No Doubt....

StahlMaster....

Well, that didnt take long. vtscott pays attention to detail!

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FarmerDawn

04-01-2006 06:05:40

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Re: No Doubt, Calling You Out in reply to vtscott, 04-01-2006 05:42:45

Ah-huh! The codes match! Tippin' my hat to you, Scott.

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geo in MI

04-01-2006 05:18:13

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Re: No Doubt, Calling You Out in reply to FarmerDawn, 03-31-2006 19:01:35

Been quietly following your Arthur adventure for some weeks now without a comment. The world is not filled with jerks. However, they are strategically placed..... ..... ....

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FarmerDawn

04-01-2006 06:07:10

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Re: No Doubt, Calling You Out in reply to geo in MI, 04-01-2006 05:18:13

What a perfect observation! I have to laugh at its aptness... "strategically placed" indeed! Thank you for a great start to the day!! :-)

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ozark mike

03-31-2006 22:16:01

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Re: No Doubt, Calling You Out in reply to FarmerDawn, 03-31-2006 19:01:35

Dawn,,don`t let some a$$hole like that get to you..you are "DOING" what the stupid SOB maybe tried and failed..you have true friends out here that believe in you..listen to them and you will be just fine...
mike

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Jubal Lee

03-31-2006 21:53:57

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Re: No Doubt, Calling You Out in reply to FarmerDawn, 03-31-2006 19:01:35

You go, girl!! You got my support and I admire your spunk and determination!!! Keep at it and don't pay attention to negativity. As my Mama was fond of saying: "Can't" never could do anything!" and we all know that you CAN!!!!!

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Mr. Bill No. Mn.

03-31-2006 21:32:59

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Re: No Doubt, Calling You Out in reply to FarmerDawn, 03-31-2006 19:01:35

I must have missed something but if someone is bad mouthing you or giving you a hard time they are probably jealous cause the can"t do what you are doing. Keep up the good work . I had to learn the same as you only I didn"t know about this board at the time. Had to go with the book. Keep up the good work Dawn and don"t let that idiot get to ya.-Bill

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8-N Nut

03-31-2006 20:53:52

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Re: No Doubt, Calling You Out in reply to FarmerDawn, 03-31-2006 19:01:35

WHOO! EEEE! Man I'm ready to fight! Dawn, you keep on' keepin on'! I love your fightin' spirit! But! Some jack a$$ sob is not worth it! Stay focused! You'er doing just fine! I don't post much. But had to on this one!!! Take care, Ron.

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Troy(IL)

03-31-2006 20:39:38

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Re: No Doubt, Calling You Out in reply to FarmerDawn, 03-31-2006 19:01:35

Dawn, your doing a fine job with Arthur, and like others on here have said, none of us learned this stuff overnight, we have all been there, you should be proud of what you have, and will accomplish, you will have a nice tractor, that will bring you years of enjoyment.
I've been working on my project '53 Jubilee off and on, since 2002. there is nothing wrong with taking your time, and learning as you go. If i were'nt so far away, i'd load up my tools, and come out and give you a hand.

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FarmerDawn

03-31-2006 19:53:42

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Thanks guys; it's ok in reply to FarmerDawn, 03-31-2006 19:01:35

My reply to this cretin was just something I had to do for myself, not for him. He's obviously a lost cause.

But thanks for your words of support. I feel so blessed to have found your community and to be priveleged to learn from you all!!!

Even more, I understand now that I am learning far more here than about tractors or mechanics, and that every single moment I spend learning from you guys is pure gold.

A Fan of All of You,
Dawn

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Jerry/MT

03-31-2006 20:43:15

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Re: Thanks guys; it's ok in reply to FarmerDawn, 03-31-2006 19:53:42

Dawn I've been flowing your adventure in rebuilding your 8N and I have to tell you my hat's off to you. I think you are a courageous person whose not afraid to tackle any thing! I haven't felt the need to reply to many of your posts because I'm not an N series Ford owner and the folks on this site have much more expertise on the 8N than I. Don't be discouraged by the few people who, who for whatever reason (some sort of insecurity or petty jealousy?), feel a need to knock the work that you're doing. Just keep on coming back to all the supportive people that constructively respond to your questions. And keep on keepin' on.
Good Luck!

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Willy-N

03-31-2006 20:40:25

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Re: Thanks guys; it's ok in reply to FarmerDawn, 03-31-2006 19:53:42

Dawn I was the horible N Parter here on this site for a long time. Years back I looked for 8Ns to part out for both money to feed my family and pervide parts for others. Spent a long time cleaning up parts, taking lots of pictures for EBay and also posting them here for others to see a part they needed to know something about long after the part was gone. I have probley 1,500 plus detailed close up pictures of 2,9 and 8Ns parts. I have lost count of how many I parted out but quit doing it. I was given so much crap I quit posting for a long time. I still only jump in once in a while when I see something I could help with or maybe post a picture of a rare part ect. I enjoyed working on tractors but did not like the negitive comments I used to get if I parted one. I took pride in the fact I sold only good parts and spent a long time getting them ready to sell. Then EBayer started selling tons on them all covered with grease, rust, paint ect and I did not want to do it anymore. Don't let it get you down cause there will allways be a few who like to cause trouble. Hang in there and if you get in over your head on this project don't feel bad about selling the parts on EBay. You could probley double your money you paid for the tractor and buy one allready fixed up! Mark H.

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FarmerDawn

04-01-2006 06:14:57

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Re: Thanks guys; it's ok in reply to Willy-N, 03-31-2006 20:40:25

I am awfully glad you're back, Mark, though I didn't know at first that you were "missing" (because I had come onto the forum after that time). And I know all about having to provide for your family. People can say all they want about what a person "should" or "shouldn't" do, but that's immaterial if they've never walked in their shoes and don't know what it's like. As to parting tractors out, I don't know where else some kinds of parts could come from. That's just the way of things. Even the living creatures are made from the "dust" of those who went before. So don't go away again, ok? :-)

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don t.-9n180179

04-01-2006 01:50:45

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And I was....... in reply to Willy-N, 03-31-2006 20:40:25

....sorry to see you go. You, and many others took off, taking your common sense and knowledge. This board lost many contributors during those times.

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Willy-N

04-01-2006 07:17:49

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Re: And I was....... in reply to don t.-9n180179, 04-01-2006 01:50:45

I will admit the N Board has mellowed out a lot. Not near as much tearing at each others throats! Mark H.

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jimNCal

04-01-2006 20:11:02

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Re: And I was....... in reply to Willy-N, 04-01-2006 07:17:49

Thank KIM and whoever suggested the OT forum/board. Seems that MOST of the radicals/nutcases have taken up residence over there and left us poor tractor folk alone!!

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Ron/PA

04-01-2006 03:19:01

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I'll swap my N in reply to don t.-9n180179, 04-01-2006 01:50:45

for one of those pix of an N in the scope, LOL.
I used to laugh my butt off, and Willy just kept on doing his thing, and now he's one of the "Go to guys" for answeres on assembly and pix of good clean parts and assemblies. Yer right Don, we lost alot of good sources of information. I'm already missing Phil's board, and the info that was available there. I'm guessing that by the end of the Arthur project, Dawn will be answering questions along with the best of them, just 'cause she's done it. We still use our "N's" in the day to day operation of our little farm, and this board, through Dawn's project has been a source of my constant learning experience. I've viewed alot of these restorations with a fair amount of skepticism over the years, and feel fairly confident this one won't end up as shop clutter. So Dawn, you're in good company, you have great mentors, and when a detractor starts to give you flack, just smile and wave at 'em.

Ron/PA

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jimNCal

03-31-2006 20:38:48

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Re: Thanks guys; it's ok in reply to FarmerDawn, 03-31-2006 19:53:42

Zen. MOST of us got addicted to these old jewels for just the same reasons you are beginning to follow and understand and we are happy to count you as one of our own. One bad attitude isn't gonna come close to spoiling that for us and it won't for you either.
If you let the naysayers get to you, they accomplish what they set out to do. Indifference to that is the truest form of self confidence.

jim

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maplehillfrm,pat

03-31-2006 19:47:40

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Re: No Doubt, Calling You Out in reply to FarmerDawn, 03-31-2006 19:01:35

dawn keep it up, you are doing good, you are delving into depths that alot of people never have yet, probably NO DOUBT,, just because maybe his project ended up on ebay, thats not your problem,. and you know what if it does thats your perogitive,, I have a 2n I was rebuilding, alot was original so it only need minor stuff, A nICER 9n came along and now I am giving up on the 2n, you keep your experience with arthur positive and dont let him worry you, he may even have a trailer queen that he bought all done and is jealous you are getting your tractor finished and reworked from the bottem up, AND will actually use it,, take a breath look back on your accomplishments, and know that when you have a problem you can come back here and your "friends" will be here to help out, even if we know we can get it done eassier, at least you are doing it, and you are doing it with out any of the NEW tools,, good job,, forget about the handful of losers who just love to get under someones nerves, you said your piece,, let him be a doubter, you are a doer, congrats on the progress, and hope you got all the blue grease out,, I know the feeling when I grease my tractors, you try to be as careful as you can and like you said a sneak attack, have a great day,pat

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TennesseeMan

03-31-2006 19:35:23

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Re: No Doubt, Calling You Out in reply to FarmerDawn, 03-31-2006 19:01:35

Dawn I don't reply to alot of post but trust me, I've been keeping up with you and Arthur. I really admire what you have done so far. Please don't let anyone upset you and just ignore them. I hope that someday you will be able to post a pic of Arthur when it's fully restored and please keep us informed of your progress. We are all learning from what you are doing, and at times I wish I could be there to help you with that stuck bolt.

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TheOldHokie

03-31-2006 19:31:59

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Re: No Doubt, Calling You Out in reply to FarmerDawn, 03-31-2006 19:01:35

Not worthy of the time you just wasted. Just a jerk with a severe inferiority complex and a deepseated case of tractor envy. We all know the type -probably got small feet too.

TOH

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Dave L

03-31-2006 19:28:19

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Re: No Doubt, Calling You Out in reply to FarmerDawn, 03-31-2006 19:01:35

Good job Dawn,his problem isn't you it's him.By the way there are NO stupid questions,none.
Very respectfully
Dave

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Dan

03-31-2006 19:27:29

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Re: No Doubt, Calling You Out in reply to FarmerDawn, 03-31-2006 19:01:35

Dawn - remember, the World Wide Web is made up of all kinds. I know how tough it is to take the bad with the good when it comes to a community of people. There are a few people here I let get under my skin early on, and we had our share of dialog back and forth - but you know what? For every ONE person that is rude and abrasive to you, there are at least ONE HUNDRED or more that are decent, supportive, and believe in the old addage that if you can't say something nice - don't say anything at all. I no longer worry, or seek, the advice of these guys any more - there are plenty who are willing to help with a kind atttitude. Rustbucket was the first time I had ever seen the inside of an engine as well, there were a few guys who snubbed me on that project also, but you know what? My NAA is purring just fine now, I did it myself, and had a lot of great people who helped me work it out and made it all possible.

Don't let the few guys who never learned common courtesy, or maybe just have a problem with women doing something other than sewing, cause you a minutes pause. WE are here for you and will happily help you when the few others won't - and you WILL get it done! If you haven't stopped by now, you have got the perserverance(sp) to finish what you started.

Keep your chin up, you are doing just fine.

Dan

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Stan(PA)

03-31-2006 19:22:58

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Re: No Doubt, Calling You Out in reply to FarmerDawn, 03-31-2006 19:01:35

I had to go to page 2, just to see what"s going on. Don"t let this guy get to you, everybody has to start somewhere. I"ve been "restoring" my Massey Pony for the past 2 years, working on it when I can, and when the weather is right. I know some of the guys on here could have finished it in a few months, but I"ll finish it eventually. Getting it done is great, but the actual "doing" is a big part of the enjoyment. You"re tackling things that a lot of more experienced people wouldn"t, so you can be proud of that. If someone wants to belittle you because you"re new and inexperienced, ignore them. I"m fairly sure that this guy wasn"t born knowing it all, and he was green at one time. Enjoy and learn from the good people here, and don"t let one bad apple get to you.... By the way, I"ve been mechanicing my whole life. and still ask "stupid" questions fairly often :)

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Stumpy

03-31-2006 19:14:21

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Re: No Doubt, Calling You Out in reply to FarmerDawn, 03-31-2006 19:01:35

You Go Girl!!!! I belive in you!!!! Let me say this, if you said the word there would be several people on the way to help you with ANYTHING Arthur needs!!!!

I applaud the fact that you have taken the steps you have already, doesn't matter if it has been a weekend or a decade. You have learned in a few short months what others have taken years to learn, think about it.

Go Dawn GO!!!!! !

Sincerly from a background fan cheering you on,

Stumpy

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Bob

03-31-2006 19:10:58

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Re: No Doubt, Calling You Out in reply to FarmerDawn, 03-31-2006 19:01:35

Dawn,

You are impressing the HECK out of lots of us folks with your adventures, and entertaining ONE pain in the A$$!

Keep it UP!

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