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Pertronix and 12 volt conversion for 9n

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Ron Tron

04-11-2006 07:23:15




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Bob and David O et al

OK boys, I'm a dunderhead. The amp meter I replaced isn't an amp meter at all its a voltage meter. HELLO..... . anyway I now have reconnected the wiring as follows and it seems to be doing fine and the "voltage" meter is reading 14 volts when the tractor is running. The following is the way I wired it..... .Pleass inform the dunderhead if I did something wrong here..... ...

Red wire from Alternator to bottom post on junction box (hot). I have three wires leaving that post now. One goes to the key, one goes to the + side of the voltage meter and of course one goes to the +side of the starter switch. The other side of the voltage meter is grounded.

Additional question:
One of you thought that the resistor on the junction box was not enough alone for my 2.5 ohm coil. Is that still your belief?

Also I have a friend that bought a 9n for a song and a dance and the reason being is that the block is cracked..... any suggestions..... ..?

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Ben in KS

04-11-2006 10:34:30




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 Re: Pertronix and 12 volt conversion for 9n in reply to Ron Tron, 04-11-2006 07:23:15  
Ron, I have a '49 8N, I just do whatever Dell tells me to do..seems to work out okay. Tell your friend t buy the 9N, tear it down and find a knowledgeable soul to weld the crack. This is NOT a do-it-yourself fix. Find an expert and pay them accordingly, it is worth it. HTH Ben



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Phil (NJ,AZ,Sask)

04-11-2006 08:03:07




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 Re: Pertronix and 12 volt conversion for 9n in reply to Ron Tron, 04-11-2006 07:23:15  
One of you thought that the resistor on the junction box was not enough alone for my 2.5 ohm coil. Is that still your belief?

The 2.5 ohm coil is a match with the OEM ballast. (you have it right) If i was converting to 12V that is the coil I would use. What part number is that coil

The other 12V coils are ~3.6 Ohms and don't work with ballasts.

JMHO



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DavidO

04-11-2006 08:00:08




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 Re: Pertronix and 12 volt conversion for 9n in reply to Ron Tron, 04-11-2006 07:23:15  
That should work, but I agree with souNdguy. I would take a look at the original wiring diagram and make it look as much like that as possible both for yourself and for someone else who might need to work on it in the future. Maybe make notes on a printed copy as to why you hooked which wire where. Put that document some place safe. You might be surprised at how much you forget between now and the next time you work on it. I (souNdguy, Dell, and many many others)do not need a schematic to work on the electrical system because we know where all of the wires go and why they go there. Many N owners DO NOT know where all of the wires go or why they go there, so be clever and write it down. I don't think that I said that the resistor on the junction box was not enough for your 2.5 ohm coil. What I said was that NO RESISTOR was not enough for the coil. I don't remember now for sure which coil you have but I seem to remember that it was a new squarecan front mount 12V coil. If so, it needs a resistor of about .5 ohms 20W in series with the wire feeding the coil. Failure to include this resistor will cause your new coil to die after a few hours of operation. Best wishes and, by the way, GOOD JOB.

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Bob

04-11-2006 07:44:22




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 Re: Pertronix and 12 volt conversion for 9n in reply to Ron Tron, 04-11-2006 07:23:15  
Like S.G. says, you need to get the source for the voltmeter over to the terminal that is switched "ON" and "OFF" by the ignition switch, or the voltmeter will remain on all the time, and put a constant (but tiny) drain on the battery while the tractor is not being used.

["Additional question:
One of you thought that the resistor on the junction box was not enough alone for my 2.5 ohm coil. Is that still your belief?"]

If you are using an aftermarket "12-Volt" square can coil, on the contrary. I stated you would have a hotter spark using "Dell's Trick Resistor", as the OEM ballast reistor has MORE resistance than the .5 Ohm "trick resistor"

If the tractor runs and starts well as it is, I wouldn't worry about it, the extra resistance is easier on the electronic module AND the coil.

However, keep in mind if you should have some hard starting or missfire issues, changing to the 1/2 Ohm 20 Watt resistor, instead of the OEM ballast resistor MAY help, 'cause it will increase the spark output of the coil.

As to the other tractor, replacement junction blocks are readily available and not too costly.

However, will it be kept as-original 6-Volt, or has it been, or will it be converted to 12-Volt?

That will determine whether to use the original junction block and resistor, or just a plain junction block.

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souNdguy

04-11-2006 07:28:57




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 Re: Pertronix and 12 volt conversion for 9n in reply to Ron Tron, 04-11-2006 07:23:15  
Look at the oem wire diagram.. wire it as if the amp meter is a 'wire'. Wire the votl meter onthe ignition side of the switch..

Soundguy



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