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Usefulness of a Cordwood Saw

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Paul Schultz

04-15-2006 14:17:47




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I am clearing land so that we can build a house. I'm cutting down dozens and dozens of trees. I am using a chainsaw to do this and I am generating a LOT of logs.

I keep seeing discussions of the cordwood saws that attach to the back of the N-series tractors.

What is the advantage? Should I just invest the money in my chainsaw or would a cordwood saw be the way to go.

I have stacks of 5-6 foot logs that I eventually will have to cut down to firewood dimensions.

Thanks,

Paul.

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Dan Hill

04-16-2006 03:45:30




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 Re: Usefulness of a Cordwood Saw in reply to Paul Schultz, 04-15-2006 14:17:47  
I have used both methods and favor the cordwood saw.The new cordwood saws are well guarded.Sawing wood to stove length with a chain saw eats up a lot of chains, bars, sprockets and bar oil.I have a pto shaft driven saw that cost 850.00 about 20 years ago.I considered building one but the parts needed cost more than a new rig.I can bring the tractor along side piled 4 foot wood and saw alone.The saw can handle 12 inch logs when the the blade is new.You will need a helper on wood this size.I stay with smaller trees when cutting fire wood.Only the poorest trees are cut.Cutting up good grade logs for fire wood is dumb.I leave the good stuff to grow or cut for my band mill.I see that new cordwood saws like mine sell for 1350.00 now.Dry fire wood sells for 200.00 here.It would not take long to pay for the saw if you sold some wood.A used shaft drive saw sells for about 500.00.Older belt drive saws can be bought for a lot less.A belt drive saw didnt draw any bids on ebay.It was located in Maine.Tractors with a narrow front end and belt pulleys can have front mount cord wood saw put on them.Makes a nice portable rig.I expect fuel oil will cost 3.00 a gallon next winter.Better get that cordwood saw set up now.

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Wood Chuck (WI)

04-16-2006 03:30:03




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 Re: Usefulness of a Cordwood Saw in reply to Paul Schultz, 04-15-2006 14:17:47  
Living in WI requires alot of heat,I have experience in using a buzz saw on the back of a ford tractor and a good chain saw,I would prefer the chain saw any day and I could do it faster and safer.



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Doug Carmean

04-15-2006 20:52:55




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 Re: Usefulness of a Cordwood Saw in reply to Paul Schultz, 04-15-2006 14:17:47  
My dad had a sawmill when I was in high school in the 60's. I made most of my spending money and kept my '49 Ford coupe running by selling the firewood I cut with a cordwood saw. Today I still cut firewood to heat our 3500 square foot house with an outdoor furnace. It takes a lot of wood. I have 3 stihl chain saws, 2 little ones and one big one. I'm still cleaning up downed trees from an ice storm 2 years ago. I cut off the small limbs in the woods before moving the tree. I pull the tree out of the woods to a woodlot where I use a little 9 pound stihl 180 to cut up anything smaller than about 8 inches. The bigger logs get the big Stihl woodboss which is fast and powerful. I love to watch the cordwood saws working at shows, but if I had to use one now, I'd freeze to death!

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Leroy

04-15-2006 18:26:52




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 Re: Usefulness of a Cordwood Saw in reply to Paul Schultz, 04-15-2006 14:17:47  
Just today was picking up and cutting up limb's from the Jan. 5, 05 ice storm, cleaned the brush off with lopers, keeping anything 1" or larger for stove. Cut limb's to handleable size with electric chainsaw and loaded on trailer to wait till I put on my 3 point buzz (Cordwood) saw next month. I will buzz it myself and do it 10 times faster than a chain saw would do it. I have at least 5 more trailers loads to get ready for the buzz saw.

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murn-ga

04-15-2006 16:02:41




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 Re: Usefulness of a Cordwood Saw in reply to Paul Schultz, 04-15-2006 14:17:47  
Having been part of cutting fire wood back in the late 50's,I think the only useful thing would be for the slabs off a sawmilers logs. We use to back up to a pile of slabs and have a pick up load in no time. For anything larger than slabs I would chose a chain saw.



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Ultradog MN

04-15-2006 15:41:25




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 Re: Usefulness of a Cordwood Saw in reply to Paul Schultz, 04-15-2006 14:17:47  
I'll weigh in here...
I have real nice Dearborn Buzz saw that I restored a couple of years ago.(Thanks Duey) With a good sharp blade and one or two helpers you can cut a lot of firewood with it.
However, I think that the demise of these old saws is due to the efficiancy of modern lightweight chainsaws. One man with a good chain saw can cut nearly as much wood as two men could with a buzz saw. And you don't have to do all that lifting to get your logs onto the table.
Buzz saws were real popular when the alternative was a two man cross cut saw or, a chain saw that weighed 60 lbs. New chain saws are incredibly powerful and yet are rather light weight. I think if you are looking to put up some wood in the most efficiant manner get a good Sthil.
Jerry

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Tim PloughNman Daley

04-15-2006 15:14:11




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 Re: Usefulness of a Cordwood Saw in reply to Paul Schultz, 04-15-2006 14:17:47  
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Hey Paul-
You might spend about as much as you would for a really great chain saw on a Cordwood Saw but the benefits outweigh the negatives, if any. I love my saw. It comes in handy for chores around the farm as well as when I take it to our tractor clubs sawmill demos. We use it there to cut up the slab trim and the work goes quick with two men operating. Be aware of that 30" blade spinning around with little or no guards and you'll need a Ford Belt Pulley to run it and you'll be fine. Good Luck.

Tim Daley (MI)
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Ultradog MN

04-15-2006 15:53:36




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 Re: Usefulness of a Cordwood Saw in reply to Tim PloughNman Daley, 04-15-2006 15:14:11  
Tim,
What is that brace that goes from front to rear under the blade on your saw? Is it original?
When I bought mine there were braces like yours that someone had bolted on to keep the frame from bending.
I built a whole new main frame when I restored it. I used 1/4" thick angle instead of the original 3/16". That made it a little less bendy and most people wouldn't know the diff.
Jerry

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Tim Daley

04-17-2006 14:29:13




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 Re: Usefulness of a Cordwood Saw in reply to Ultradog MN, 04-15-2006 15:53:36  
Hey Dogman!
Long time no see...how ya been? I think that brace was added by the previous owner. It is attached to the guard and the frame but I see no such thing in the pictures in the manual. The saw was purchased by a family in western Michigan and used on a farm. The son whom I bought it from powered it from a non-Ford tractor and had a 12' belt and the saw was bolted down to a deck. That is probably why it was missing the wishbone bracket and legs.

Do you still have that 3-bottom plow?

Tim Daley (MI)
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Jimmyjack

04-15-2006 14:42:20




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 Re: Usefulness of a Cordwood Saw in reply to Paul Schultz, 04-15-2006 14:17:47  
Paul, I have used a cordwood saw for years and it saves time, wear and tear on the chainsaw, and it is great for making firewood. The drawbacks are, it is dangerous, it requires a minimum of two people (three is better), it is best for diameters of 10 inches or less. You can saw bigger if you rotate the log. It is much faster than using chainsaw. I cut the lengths into sizes I can lift alone, and it also helps. I grew up with using one so the danger aspect wasnt much of an issue, but for a new experience dont take it lightly.

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duey

04-15-2006 14:41:20




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 Re: Usefulness of a Cordwood Saw in reply to Paul Schultz, 04-15-2006 14:17:47  
Paul, the answer is never real simple or always seen the same. When using a cordwood saw, it is almost essential to have the help of two or more people. One to primarily feeld the saw, one to pick away, and another to get the hold the tail and get the next log from teh pile.

You will want logs of handling size, 18" diameter is just way too big to handle by hand. On the other hand, a cordwood saw works good for half a dozen 2" or smaller stick.

If the saw is sharp, and the belt is snug, you can generate a large pile of firewood in a couple hours saw-time.

Using a chainsaw, as you perhaps know, is a one-man thing, and can be a bit slow. You need to keep the chain out of the dirt, keep the pinching down, keep it sharp and have gas and oil nearby.

You need to keep your person and parts clear of the 'pointy-ends' in either case.

My thoughts, if you have the labor available, a sawrig is good, if not a chainsaw is good. When I go out cutting firewood, I tip the tree with the chainsaw, limb it, and block it up right in the woods... The I split it, haul it home for drying and before the snow flies, it goes under a roof.

Wood warms you several times! duey

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Paul Schultz

04-15-2006 15:57:52




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 Re: Usefulness of a Cordwood Saw in reply to duey, 04-15-2006 14:41:20  
Thanks for all the replies. I actually assumed that in my case a quality chainsaw would meet my needs more than the cordwood saw. I just was curious.

I do virtually all the clearing of timber on my own. So the chainsaw wins in this area.

I also follow the same format...tip the tree, limb the tree, cut into manageable size logs....all with using the chainsaw.

I do like the cordwood saws. They look like an interesting implement. Especially the ones that attach to the 3 point hitch and fold up after you raise the hitch for easy transport.

Paul.

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