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Amanda Adams

04-25-2006 18:10:24




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I have a rusty fuel tank on the tractor and was wondering if there was any way to fix it to prevent the plugging of the sediment bowl. Or would a new tank be the best way?




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jetman8n

04-26-2006 12:54:41




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 Re: rusty fuel tank in reply to Amanda Adams, 04-25-2006 18:10:24  
Amanda,
I tried a couple of methods to remove the rust. With the Ford baffles, it was difficult to get the bolts and nails to go to all the places. I ended up using muratic acid from ACE. Put a plug in the outlet, put a toothpick in the vent, poured in a gallon (with a facemask, gloves, and goggles) closed er up and moved it around, after about 30 minutes, I dumped the acid, added water flushes three times, drained it, blew it out with air, set up a hair dryer blowing into the tank until dry. Sprayed it with WD-40, installed it, added gas and it is still purty and clean after 6 months. Be careful with the acid, but pretty cheap fix. My tank was sound but rusty. If it's thin, you may have to go with the liner kit (POR).

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BobOHIO

04-25-2006 20:34:32




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 Re: rusty fuel tank in reply to Amanda Adams, 04-25-2006 18:10:24  
I tried the POR tank liner on my Farmall and followed the instructions exactly and didn't cut any corners. Now, two years later, instead of rust in the sediment bowl it gets plugged with small silver flakes of liner. I know many people recommend it and have had good success, but I will never use it again. I would get it boiled out by a shop. Just my experience.



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Ole Country Boy

04-25-2006 19:19:14




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 Re: rusty fuel tank in reply to Amanda Adams, 04-25-2006 18:10:24  
Had a rusty tank on an old JD tractor. I called around and found an ole style radiatior shop that took the tank and boiled it out like they do radiators. Checked it for leaks and coated it with kerosene till I could get it home and back on. Clean as a new babys head and keeping it clean and full of gas, never had another problem with it.

Another option I have seen used is like the others suggest, empty it, put in brass something, spend 22 casings, and haul it around inthe the bed of the truck for a few days, flush with kerosene and clean rinse it out a few times.

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Kelly Jewell (KY)

04-25-2006 18:57:38




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 Re: rusty fuel tank in reply to Amanda Adams, 04-25-2006 18:10:24  
Amanda, everything they said and one thing more. A old Model A Ford fix was add a stand pipe to the fuel valve, making the fuel flow into the stand pipe left the rust in the bottom of the tank. Your 2N-9155-B fuel valve already has the standpipe and a lower hole. Read the instructions on the wheel/knob where you shut the fuel off and only use the main tank(stand pipe) and not the reserve (bottom hole). I wasn't around when the Model As were, but had a father in law that had a really neat 1929 Station Wagon I drove several miles that used this system, with no problems..... Kelly.

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Dell (WA)

04-25-2006 18:43:25




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 Re: rusty fuel tank in reply to Amanda Adams, 04-25-2006 18:10:24  
Amanda..... ....welp, a new 10-gal 9N/2N/8N fueltank is $150. (not cheap) A POR-15 tank liner/coating kit is $30. Your call.

BUT..... ..remember, yer N-Tractor has 3-fuel filters and they are really preety good at stoppin' stuff. There is a NON-REPLACEABLE cylindrical screen UP-INSIDE yer fuel tank thats supposted to stop the big-chunks. It sometimes "melts" and the ONLY-WAY you can find-out and clean it or replace it is by removing the whole under-the-tank fuelvalve with glass bowl.

And then there is the "obvious" fuelfilter screen ontop of the glass bowl that you see the chunks swirl around in.

And then there is the "un-obvious" fuelfilter in the elbow of the carburator fuel inlet.

Remember to ALWAYS TURN-OFF yer fuel valve after yer thru tractoring for the day..... ....Dell

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FarmerDawn

04-25-2006 18:42:15




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 Re: rusty fuel tank in reply to Amanda Adams, 04-25-2006 18:10:24  
Amanda, there is a passage in the book "How to Rebuild and Repair Farm Tractor Engines" by Spencer Yost that I think might be helpful. It sounds like a pretty easy way to do it. Here it is:

"To scour the [gas] tank [of rust], put some clear water and a handful of small smooth creek pebbles or roofing nails in the tank. (Roofing nails are made of aluminum, hard enough to remove rust but not hard enough to damage the tank.) Then begin agitating the mixture, alternating sides and rinsing often, until all traces of rust are gone. This is a tedious and time-consuming process, and there are no shortcuts here. Making a tumbling apparatus that is easily turned by hand or better yet, electrically powered, will help alleviate the drudgery of this job, or you can put it on a small cart and just push it back and forth. The job is finished when the rinse water shows no appreciable sign of rust. Next follow with a solution of water and a small amount of a strong cleaner and repeat. Change the solution two or three times. This will remove any last traces of gasoline, sludge, and fuel varnish. Rinse and dry the tank completely. The exhaust of a vacuum cleaner pumped into the tank helps dry it quickly to eliminate flash rust." (page 126)

I hope this helps you!

Dawn

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Jerry (AL)

04-25-2006 18:21:53




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 Re: rusty fuel tank in reply to Amanda Adams, 04-25-2006 18:10:24  
See below. You can get a lot of the loose rust out that is causing the problems. Just depends on how bad a situation you have. I have heard that some people empty them, put in marbles or small creek rock and then strap it to the back of a four wheeler or hauling it around in the bad of a truck for several days. My son and I shook mine a lot too. It could be that it may be a lot of the lacquer type material from leaving old gas in it that is turning loose too. Book says try to always leave your tank full at the end of the day. The air space in the tank is what causes the rust from moisture above the gas level. Not good to leave one bone dry for an extended period of time.

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FarmerDawn

04-25-2006 18:48:54




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 Re: rusty fuel tank in reply to Jerry (AL), 04-25-2006 18:21:53  
I didn't know that about filling it up at the end of the day! (Of course, there is a LOT I don't know, but that's one of the really nifty little things...) :-) THANKS for posting it! --Dawn



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Bruce (VA)

04-25-2006 18:16:09




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 Re: rusty fuel tank in reply to Amanda Adams, 04-25-2006 18:10:24  
Lots of folks have succesfully lined their tanks; plenty of products around & a half dozen ways to do it. Try www.por15.com for the products; do an archive search on rusty fuel tank & you will get lots of info on the way to do it.



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