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Clutch replacement and oil in radiator

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SCgoatfarmer

05-12-2006 07:07:08




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She is running like a top after the clutch replacement and carbureator rebuild.

Here is the new problem...
Changed all fluids and cleaned a lot of outside while rebuilding. When changing the radiator fluid, I found oil mixed with it this time.

I plan on changing again and seeing if it is in there again.

If it is what should be my plan of action?...
Remove hood and gas tank, wire conduit, spark plugs, exhaust manifold, and then pull the head off... check head gasket and possible cracks in blocks?

Any ideas what most likely is the problem?

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Dixon

05-13-2006 03:03:25




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 Re: Clutch replacement and oil in radiator in reply to SCgoatfarmer, 05-12-2006 07:07:08  
Hi SC,I just had the exact problem and changed the head gasket.I now have about ten hours since and no oil in the ole rad just normal anti freeze.So I say go for it.Oh I had the head milled and the radiator boiled it was full of oil.



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Carl S in NH

05-12-2006 10:08:22




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 Re: Clutch replacement in reply to SCgoatfarmer, 05-12-2006 07:07:08  
If I remember correctly you had a little trouble getting the two halves of your N back together after the clutch work. A few people here thought something might be amiss since it didn't slide right together easily. But I also remember you explained that it was only because your N wasn't sitting level. Unless I missed a post somewhere, I didn't hear whether everything worked smoothly on the clutch now. Have you had it out for a drive yet? Or did you do the one rear wheel jacked up test? Just wondering how things turned out.
Carl

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SCgoatfarmer

05-12-2006 12:59:46




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 Re: Clutch replacement in reply to Carl S in NH, 05-12-2006 10:08:22  
She is running beautifully.

I really didnt exert a lot of pressure using that com-a-long it was just easier since it was a one man job.

I rebuilt the carb also and cleaned up the air breather too.

I had to reopen the carb three times to add/adjust parts in it but when I finally started her up, I havent had to make one adjustemnt.

She runs great!

Thanks to everyone out there who helped.

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Dell (WA)

05-12-2006 08:20:34




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 Re: Clutch replacement and oil in radiator in reply to SCgoatfarmer, 05-12-2006 07:07:08  
Goatsie..... ....in the long ago days, you actually added "oil" to yer radiator water, it was called waterpump lube. (really) Today, waterpump lube is included in anti-freeze as an additive. You just don't see it floating on top yer anti-freeze when you bend over to check yer belchfire V-8 plastic watertank. (why? 'cuz the hood blocks the skylite)

Since yer N-Radiator water is almost at eyelevel, and outdoors, you will see reflected some natural oils floating ontop of yer anti-freeze. Most of this "oily film" is natural combustion by-products forcing itself past a leaky head gasket. It is NOT engine oil. There is NO engine oil passages thru yer headgasket.

The ONLY-WAY to completely gitt ridd of oily deposits in yer engine water jacket and radiator is to do an engine flush with caustic wash. As a general rule, unless yer sphincterly challenged, it ain't worth the time and effort.

Howsomevers; its always good practice to re-torque yer cylinderhead bolts (70ft/lbs) to prevent headgasket leaks. Unless it is already too late. The ONLY-WAY to tell iff'n you have a headgasket leak is to do the dreaded compression test. ...or... find a chemical analysis test kit for combustion by-products. Ask yer Snap-On man, or radiator shop..... ...Dell

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SCgoatfarmer

05-12-2006 10:10:23




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 Re: Clutch replacement and oil in radiator in reply to Dell (WA), 05-12-2006 08:20:34  
Changed oil several times and looks great.

However, there was more than an oily film when I drained the radiator.

It was black.

However, let me flush a couple times, it could have just been really old.

New question...
Is there any problems with running only water in the radiator? Does there need to be some oil in it to lubricate the water pump like you stated in your response?



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Dell (WA)

05-12-2006 11:59:24




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 Re: Clutch replacement and oil in radiator in reply to SCgoatfarmer, 05-12-2006 10:10:23  
Goatsie..... ...geeze for the price of a jug of anti-freeze, don't muckka'round. While my impression of SC is winter is warm, but summer is HOT. You get both freezing protection and extended boiling protection. Anti-freeze also rust-inhibitor, waterpump lube, and "other" desirable additives. Read the lables..... ..respectfully, Dell



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Bob

05-12-2006 07:59:54




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 Re: Clutch replacement and oil in radiator in reply to SCgoatfarmer, 05-12-2006 07:07:08  
Far worse than a film of combustion products floating in the radiator is coolant in the oil. Have you loosened the drain plug, after the tractor has sat unused overnight, to see if any coolant has settled out of the oil?

If the oil is OK, and all you have is an oily film of combustion products on top of the coolant in the radiator, it may be worth trying to retorqe the head before going through all the trouble of changing the gasket.

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SCgoatfarmer

05-12-2006 10:07:17




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 Re: Clutch replacement and oil in radiator in reply to Bob, 05-12-2006 07:59:54  
I have changed oil several times and there is nothing in it but oil.



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LeeMo

05-12-2006 07:50:29




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 Re: Clutch replacement and oil in radiator in reply to SCgoatfarmer, 05-12-2006 07:07:08  
I think the most common cause of mixing oil and water in these Ns is the head gasket. Usually not a bad job to replace.



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