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Pooh Bear

05-18-2006 18:33:39




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A lifelong friend of mine has offered to give me a sickle bar mower.
But I have to come get it.
He lives about 10-15 miles down the valley from me.
Takes 20 minutes to get there by car.
Longer if I stick to the back roads.

Would there be a problem driving my 8N that far.
My 49 8N is in great shape.
But will I damage it in any way driving it that far.

Thanks.

Pooh Bear




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dave guest

05-19-2006 20:25:30




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 Re: Driving 8N long distances in reply to Pooh Bear, 05-18-2006 18:33:39  
Did you ever read a book called "Alaska on a JD tractor."? True story, more miles than you are talking. They did have couple repairs and took a month.



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RPolcynsr

05-19-2006 13:11:05




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 Re: Driving 8N long distances in reply to Pooh Bear, 05-18-2006 18:33:39  
Driving distances with a tractor is a common thing around here. The Amish have rigged up trailers with lawn chairs, screened windows and use them as passenger carriers. It is quite common to see cabs on tractors and a carry all on the back with an enclosed box. We call them Amish pickups. Knew some Amish who lived in Kentucky who used a trailer made from a pickup rear clip. Hooked the PTO to the driveshaft and propelled that way.
Get the DVD "The Straight Story" from your library or video store. Its about a geezer like me who drove from Central Iowa to Wisconsin with a garden tractor and a cobbed-up trailer to visit his brother who was ill. You'll love the video!

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Sam#3

05-19-2006 06:18:56




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 Re: Driving 8N long distances in reply to Pooh Bear, 05-18-2006 18:33:39  
Consider the question, 'When I get the mower home I'm going to mow the front forty, how far will I travel?' Better yet, I'm going to plow the same forty.
My posterior was molded by an old JD seat. Once I figured how long I had sat there it was no longer a surprise.



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ericlb

05-19-2006 05:09:32




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 Re: Driving 8N long distances in reply to Pooh Bear, 05-18-2006 18:33:39  
i new a old guy [ 70 plus] in the next town, after the sheriff took his licence away due to his pal john barley corn, he fired up his farmall cub and drove it all over the county for the next 10 years, it still runs fine, unfortunatly he wasnt is as good a shape, rip



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guest

05-19-2006 04:22:25




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 Re: Driving 8N long distances in reply to Pooh Bear, 05-18-2006 18:33:39  
You must have a friend with a trailer....

I saw a JD sickle ($75) and the
hook up looks difficult. I imagine the road wothyness of
the setup may be in question.



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gahorN

05-19-2006 00:02:50




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 Re: Driving 8N long distances in reply to Pooh Bear, 05-18-2006 18:33:39  
A news story near my home town a couple years ago was about a local who drove his tractor to the dealer for service. When a kid on a bike pulled out in front of him, he swerved and hit a car passing by. Farmer had no road insurance on the tractor, and ended up oweing a lot of money in damages to the car. Be careful.



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TheOldHokie

05-18-2006 19:45:30




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 Re: Driving 8N long distances in reply to Pooh Bear, 05-18-2006 18:33:39  
One of my fondest memories from my first years in this area was seeing my neighbor's IH, complete with plywood cab, parked in the Micky Dee's lot. Bout 5 miles from his home base. I don't think he has a license but he does have a big ole yellow flasher and one of them slow moving vehicle placards. Needs new rears though.

TOH



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old

05-18-2006 19:44:22




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 Re: Driving 8N long distances in reply to Pooh Bear, 05-18-2006 18:33:39  
Think about it, whats the differance in driveing it all day in the field or driveing it on the road other then the gear you use and the speed you go. Just be sure to keep it slow enough to control and also make sure you don't just hit one brake if you ahve to stop fast. I have drove many tractors 20 plus miles on the road. Its not that much fun to do if theres a lot of cars but it can be done

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2fordsmike

05-18-2006 19:41:15




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 Re: Driving 8N long distances in reply to Pooh Bear, 05-18-2006 18:33:39  
Driving that distance is absolutely no problem. Hooking up to a 3-point-hitch sickle-bar mower can be a problem even if you have all of the right stuff on your tractor. I urge you to get an owners manual for the mower and study it carefully and make sure you have all parts before you get on the road. The old Ford and Ferguson mowers had an essential mounting bracket that mounted on the fender bolts of the right-hand fender. That's the thing you need if it is an older mower. If you have it you will still need a helper to mount this mower the first time. Mike

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Paul in MN

05-18-2006 19:37:32




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 Re: Driving 8N long distances in reply to Pooh Bear, 05-18-2006 18:33:39  
P Bear,

I've driven my 8N many times that kind of distance. To lessen the tire wear on the pavement, I often drive with the right side tires just off the road on the gravel shoulder. The road speed is approximately 15 mph, and the engine is not working very hard for that time.

The one caution is if you have a Sherman OD transmission. It will get the road speed up to about 22 mph, but it increases the speed of the hydraulic pump by the same proportion. As you carry the sickle mower back home, you will probably have to have the PTO engaged to keep the 3 pt arms up. If so, do not hook up the sickle bar's PTO shaft or else it will be trying to sickle, and it can not sickle when the bar is in the travel (up) position. If you are not familiar with a sickle mower, pay very close attention to this command: NEVER PUT HAND OR FINGERS ON OR BETWEEN THE ROCK GARD TEETH! The sickle may suddenly move or slip due to lifting the bar and it will cut fingers off instantly. When you lift the bar to transport position, only handle the bar on the backside, and watch, you will see the sickle teeth move.

The early Ford sickle mowers needed a special bracket which is placed just below the 3 hole top link attachment. The top connection of the sickle bar will not fit in any one of the 3 holes. And the bottom of the sickle bar is attached to a special bracket below the right fender axle attachment bolts. Without these 2 special brackets which were usually left on the tractor, you will not be able to transport the sickle mower.

If your tractor is fitted with the PTO ORC, the short driveshaft of the sickle mower may be too long, and as you lift the mower with the 3 pt arms, it may try to drive the PTO shaft forward into the tractor rear end and do some pretty nasty stuff.

I am not tying to rain on your parade, but just advising you of some of the things to watch for. I had one of the early Ford sickle mowers, and was convinced that it probably was the most dangerous implement that I owned. Fortunately some old timer warned me about the fingers and hands problem before I learned the hard way.

Good luck and be safe!

Paul in MN

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Pooh Bear

05-18-2006 19:57:35




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 Re: Driving 8N long distances in reply to Paul in MN, 05-18-2006 19:37:32  
I don"t have a sherman tranny (wish I did).

The SBM is missing half the PTO shaft.
It is missing the half that attaches to the tractor.
It is a belt driven 3ph type.
It looks in ok shape. Not sure all the parts are there.
Best I can tell it looks complete tho.

Local police around here don"t care none.
It"s a common site to see tractors going down the road.

I don"t have a 3 hole connection for my top link.

Maybe I ought to just borrow a boom pole and use that to load the thing on a trailer and bring it home that way. I"d hate to drive my tractor all that way just to find that a bracket is missing that is needed to carry it home.
I would just take a trailer down there and get it if we had a way to load it. I doubt any of us can just pick it up and toss it up on a trailer.

Gonna have to investigate this more.
Make sure before I drive that far on my tractor.

Thanks.

Pooh Bear

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Jimmyjack

05-18-2006 18:37:28




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 Re: Driving 8N long distances in reply to Pooh Bear, 05-18-2006 18:33:39  
If it is in great shape I would say no, why should you hurt it? Hardest on tires on black top probably, but vary the speed once in a while, and enjoy the ride.



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uh . . . Dell (WA)

05-18-2006 19:22:28




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 Re: Driving 8N long distances in reply to Jimmyjack, 05-18-2006 18:37:28  
Pooh..... ..ain't gonnna hurt yer 8N but it will yer teeth from all the buggs smackin'em 'cuz yer grinnin' so much. Be certain to "wave" to everybody. Eye-protection du'riggure. Gloves and long sleeves and NO flip-flops.

Now yer local law enfforcement might haff sumptin' ta say about it. You know triangular slowmoving vehicle sign 'cuz yer only gonnna be travelin' about 12mph at 3/4 throttle (1750rpms) Caution iff'n yer reartires are water filled. SLOOoowDown..... ....Dell

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