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Howard gear and tiller

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Aaron Johnson

05-22-2006 20:31:57




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I have read the messages on the 8N and tillers.

Point of clarification: I understand it is possible to run a tiller (albeit a smaller one) on an 8N if it has a Howard gear to slow down the tractor ground speed. Correct?

Point of clarification: If a Howard gear is installed, it causes more torque to the wheels, which may cause more mechanical damage. Correct?

Question: What size of tiller is "acceptable" for the 8N?

Question: Can I install a Howard gear and where would I find the parts?

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WV8N

05-23-2006 08:57:00




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 Re: Howard gear and tiller in reply to Aaron Johnson, 05-22-2006 20:31:57  
I also use a tiller with my 8N on an established garden area it does great. With several passes you can also break up some new ground but only in small portions. In other words if you have an area you already garden the 8N will be just fine without the howard tranny. But if you have large acreage (especially new ground) you need a tractor designed for tilling.



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Ben in KS

05-23-2006 06:12:46




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 Re: Howard gear and tiller in reply to Aaron Johnson, 05-22-2006 20:31:57  
Certainly not trying to be contrarian to all the good advice here; but I run a 4 foot Howard rotovator on my 8N and it works fine if you keep in mind that multiple passes might be necessary for varying types of soil and conditions. Brace it over a little to one side to limit lateral movement.(This will cover tracks on one side) Run tractor at full throttle for best tine speed, and keep hand on depth control to maintain depth and/or load. Ben

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Aaron Johnson

05-23-2006 05:23:23




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 Re: Howard gear and tiller in reply to Aaron Johnson, 05-22-2006 20:31:57  
Is it possible that I have a Howard gear now? How would I tell?



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souNdguy

05-23-2006 06:24:25




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 Re: Howard gear and tiller in reply to Aaron Johnson, 05-23-2006 05:23:23  
third party image

You would have a shifter handle in the right side cover plate...

here is a link to a pic and some lit about the tranny options..

Soundguy



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Dell (WA)

05-23-2006 00:09:42




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 Re: Howard gear and tiller in reply to Aaron Johnson, 05-22-2006 20:31:57  
Arron..... ...I'm pleased that you've done some "homework" by searching the archives for information about the rare and fragle Howard Auxillary gearbox. What part of "rare and fragle" don't you understand?

Yes, the rules of torque multiplication with gear-ratio changes still apply. You wannna guess what part of the driveline geartrain becomes "fragle"? It ain't the 1-1/2Ton Truck ring and pinion used in the diffy.

The original differential PTO mounted Howard Rotory Hoe was 5-ft wide.

Back in the 70's, when I lived in the grapevine country around Lodi, Calif. 8N type tractors were pulling auxillary engined rototillers down the rows between the grapevines. I have NO IDEA who made these 3-point lifted aux-engined rototillers.

Bottom line, yer 8N is a 2-bottom designed, 4-mph, 3-acre/hr plowin' tool. With the 3.5:1 gear reduction of the rare and fragle Howard gearbox, you turn it into a 1-mph, 1-acre/hr wimp.

Iff'n ya just gotta have a rototillering tractor, SELL yer 8N and buy a modern diesel tractor that will rototill. Simple, eh?..... ....respectfully, Dell

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jimNCal

05-22-2006 21:58:51




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 Re: Howard gear and tiller in reply to Aaron Johnson, 05-22-2006 20:31:57  
Aaron,

Any good running 8N should be able to handle a 5 ft rotovator with little problem. Of course, terrain and soil conditions will be variables. The PROPER use of the Howard gears will not increase wear or damage to ANY of your tractor's other components. Misuse invariably leads to self destruction of the Howard gear and other assorted(expensive)goodies. The gears themselves are somewhat rare and expensive, nearly impossible to find parts for(other than bearings), and are only 1/2 of the tiller equation. I do have a nice set of Howard gears but they won't go cheap.

jim

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