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Why doesn't someone........ Tiller question

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Pooh Bear

06-21-2006 19:31:29

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With as many N tractors out there in use,
why doesn't someone design a tiller that can
be used with an N tractor. Or why doesn't
someone make a clone of the Howard tranny.

I have been considering designing a tiller with its
own drive wheels so the tractor could stay in neutral
and the tiller would just push it along.

N tractors seem to be very popular. So why not.

Pooh Bear

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Ultradog MN

06-22-2006 20:45:44

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Go blue! in reply to Pooh Bear, 06-21-2006 19:31:29

I love Ns don't get me wrong...
But if you bought a 3 cyl 2 or 3000 with the 8 spd and Live pto you'd have a tiller tractor. Some times you gots to think outside the box.

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CWG

06-22-2006 19:24:46

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Re: Why doesn't someone........ Tiller question in reply to Pooh Bear, 06-21-2006 19:31:29

As was said, a tow behind motorized tiller is thee way to go.
Sadly the only ones I've seen were like hobby/garden tow behind lawnmower types, nothing that would work for my N, but it would let me get rid of the disc and plow, get a chiselplow/field cultivator and have at it.

or...rent a tractor for a day with a tiller..

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Cargocult

06-22-2006 17:21:31

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Re: Why doesn't someone........ Tiller question in reply to Pooh Bear, 06-21-2006 19:31:29

Yaa know..the whole thing is: the tractor is too fast ! So, there were many ways to sloooow down the tractor, like the Howard Gears, etc. BUT< How about SPEEDING UP THE PTO?? Any competent machinist could come up with a gear/chain drive speed-changer to boost the RPMs on the PTO without affecting ground speed. Should take up a little space, could be bolted to the 4-bolts around the PTO. Seems like there was a similar rig for the Ferguson Side-Delivery Rake to change the PTO to permit the tractor to be driven in third, rather than the 4th gear. Of course, this was the opposite, but the same concept should be working in this application. Might be worth a try. I'd do it, but I have about 150 years worth of projex at this time, and need to go to the dump dis week, and that sort of thing leads to me coming back with more stuff than I took! (Thank God 4 burn barrels) CC

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souNdguy

06-22-2006 07:16:51

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Re: Why doesn't someone........ Tiller question in reply to Pooh Bear, 06-21-2006 19:31:29

The howard gear reproduction would be the thing to do!

Soundguy

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Dean

06-22-2006 06:02:50

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Re: Why doesn't someone........ Tiller question in reply to Pooh Bear, 06-21-2006 19:31:29

I think Lumpy has it right. It would not be cost effective to do this considering that you can buy a decent 860/861 for about $1,000 more than a good N. The 860/861 makes a good tiller tractor due to the very low 1st geat and the additional power.

At the risk of starting creating controversy, the 871/881 is even a better tiller tractor because of the additional gears, some of which are extreemly low, and independent PTO. Usually 871s can be bought for less than 861s.

Dean

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MLP

06-22-2006 04:44:24

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Re: Why doesn't someone........ Tiller question in reply to Pooh Bear, 06-21-2006 19:31:29

A friend of mine built one out of a truck rear end. That thing would throw a 25 pound rock about 50 feet. It did an excellent job of pulverizing the ground. I tried it at my house one time and when I dropped it in the ground the neighbor lady across the road grabbed her kids and ran for the house.

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06-21-2006 21:21:39

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Re: Why doesn't someone........ Tiller question in reply to Pooh Bear, 06-21-2006 19:31:29

talk about it..mn..simple...cheap....

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Dell (WA)

06-21-2006 21:18:56

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Re: Why doesn't someone........ Tiller question in reply to Pooh Bear, 06-21-2006 19:31:29

Pooh..... ..yer gittin' the cart before the horse ...er... tiller. Back in the 70's, in the central valley of Calif around Lodi (between Stockton & Sacramento and San Francisco) I used to see N-Tractors pulling AUX-ENGINED rototillers between grapevines. With seperate engine, NO NEED PTO gearbox.

Unfortunately, I don't know nor paid attention to who manufactured these 5-ft wide 3-point aux eng'd rototillers..... .....Dell, who has CRS

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monomechanical

06-22-2006 14:08:02

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Tow-behind Tillers in reply to Dell (WA), 06-21-2006 21:18:56

SEARS, tow-behind tillers.

Universal mount 5.5 hp OHV I/C Briggs & Stratton engine, tow behind tiller. No sleeve hitch needed. Fits behind any lawn, yard, or garden tractor (any brand). #24434 wheel weights sold separately for balance and depth control in heavy soil conditions. One year limited warranty.

* 5.5 HP OHV I/C Briggs & Stratton� engine * 36 in. swath * Standard rotating tires (6 one piece, 7 ga. boron steel, 11 in. diameter) * Adjusts in 1 in. increments to till up to 5.5 in. deep by adjusting rear gauge wheels * Adjustable drag stake * Iso-mount shock-absorbing hitch for smooth action * Tine action controlled by V-belt clutch convenient to operator * Convenient tiller lift and transport system * Chain drive transmission protected by shear pins in tine assemblies * Holes added in housing cover for added wheel weights for balance and depth control

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duey

06-21-2006 21:09:42

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Re: Why doesn't someone........ Tiller question in reply to Pooh Bear, 06-21-2006 19:31:29

You go! Pooh... and while you're at it, design a simple and easy four wheel drive option we can all easily add...

Bring it on!!!!! duey :-)

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FarmerDawn

06-22-2006 19:41:47

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Re: Why doesn't someone........ Tiller question in reply to duey, 06-21-2006 21:09:42

I'm with Duey. Go Pooh Bear! It sounds like a great idea to me!!! (I like the 4WD too, Duey!!)

Dawn

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Lumpy

06-21-2006 20:12:43

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Re: Why doesn't someone........ Tiller question in reply to Pooh Bear, 06-21-2006 19:31:29

Expense! and lack of live pto. My .02

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