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Pre

06-27-2006 11:15:11




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I saw this different looking tractor being pulled down the highway yesterday. I made a legal u-turn and caught up with it. I followed it into a station. The owner said it was a Ford 4n. It is a tricycle with one wheel and it is a diesel. Does anyone have any information on this tractor? He plans on selling it in a month.




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Dachshund

06-28-2006 11:07:16




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 Re: Ford 4n in reply to Pre, 06-27-2006 11:15:11  
Actually - there was a kit for converting the 8N front to a single wheel. As to the diesel - there are N's with diesel, just not original.



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Jim.UT

06-27-2006 11:57:32




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 Re: Ford 4n in reply to Pre, 06-27-2006 11:15:11  
If it's a diesel, it has to be a 701 or 901 series or later. J2's opinion that it's an early 60's 4000 series is very possible and probably explains where the current owner got the 4 in 4N.

Does it have a round front emblem like a Jubilee (or a place for one...probably missing)? If so, it's a 701 or 901. If not, then it's probably a row crop version of the 4000.

The row crop tractors had 3 different front configurations available: 2 wheel narrow front, 2 wheel wide front, and single wheel tricycle. If my guesses are in the ballpark, the engine should be a 172 cubic inch diesel (901 or 4000) or a 144 cubic inch diesel (701 or 2000). I'm not sure the 2000 series was offered as a row crop, but I tend to think not.

Transmission could be a 4 speed, 5 speed with non-live pto, 5 speed with live pto or Select-O-Speed with either single or dual speed independent pto.

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Don tx

06-27-2006 19:20:03




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 Re: Ford 4n in reply to Jim.UT, 06-27-2006 11:57:32  
Her is a past post you replied to me about Ford 601 series diesels. HTH
DON TX



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Ultradog MN

06-27-2006 12:20:11




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 Re: Ford 4n in reply to Jim.UT, 06-27-2006 11:57:32  
Jim,
Not to quibble but...
Ford did offer the 2000 in a row crop.
The link is to an Ebay auction where I sold an owners manual for one of these tractors.
On the second page you can see it says 2 and 4000 models.



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Jim.UT

06-27-2006 14:48:50




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 Re: Ford 4n in reply to Ultradog MN, 06-27-2006 12:20:11  
Thanks, Jerry. I really wasn't sure. I'm guessing the row crop 2000 tractors were about as plentiful as the 700 series.....not very.



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J2

06-27-2006 11:39:51




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 Re: Ford 4n in reply to Pre, 06-27-2006 11:15:11  
More likely a 4000 series tricycle... early sixties? about 172 cid they would probably be be blue and off-white... J2



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souNdguy

06-27-2006 11:33:36




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 Re: Ford 4n in reply to Pre, 06-27-2006 11:15:11  
Steer clear... the seller doesn't know anything about fords.

There is no 4N... 9n in 1939, 2n in 1942, 8n in 1948 1953 NAA 1955 Hundred series...( year models )

Tricycle means it could be a 7XX or 9XX..

Soundguy



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lonestarjeff

06-27-2006 14:49:49




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 Story of the Ford 4n in reply to souNdguy, 06-27-2006 11:33:36  
When tractor production slowed down for the war effort, Henry asked his design team & Harry's to begin work on a rowcrop tractor to go up against IH. The idea being to get the attention of all those diehard tricycle farmers who liked the simplicity of the 3-point system, but would never give up the 3-wheel row crop tractor's advantages.

Anyway, what the team came up w/ was similar to the sugarcane kit we've all seen on one of Palmer Fossum's N collection. This was all happening in late 1943, so, of course the release madel year was to be 1944, hence "4N".

Since this tractor was technically a new design, and still utilized the Ferguson system, Harry wanted to negotiate a new deal for this model. Among other things he wanted to badge it "Ferguson 4N".

Long story short, Henry wouldn't hear of it & Harry wouldn't let it go, so the whole thing died a slow death never to see production. Few people know this was the beginning of the end of the "handshake agreement".

Now, if you're still w/ me, I have a small piece of shorefront property in west Texas. It's right on the Gulf.....

Jeff :^D

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FarmerDawn

06-27-2006 17:21:37




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 Re: Story of the Ford 4n in reply to lonestarjeff, 06-27-2006 14:49:49  
That shorefront property on the Gulf -- would it have been inland until last year? :-)



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lonestarjeff

06-27-2006 18:07:16




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 Uh.....yes! in reply to FarmerDawn, 06-27-2006 17:21:37  
BTW, in order to save YOU the fees & commissions, we can make the transaction w/o real estate agents or title lawyers!

Jeff



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souNdguy

06-27-2006 20:13:13




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 Re: Uh.....yes! in reply to lonestarjeff, 06-27-2006 18:07:16  
Ok.. I'm in nigeria.. but I'll direct my US contact to forward you a cashiers check.. It will be for more thant he amount of the land.. Use the rest for the taxes and closing, and then send what's left as a cashiers check drawn off your bank. But remember.. time is of the essence, and we need to keep this secret, as I'm related to the (insert one ) late president of my country, Head of the national bank, CFO of a large corporation )..e tc how's that sound?

Soundguy

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lonestarjeff

06-27-2006 22:21:02




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 Re: Uh.....yes! in reply to souNdguy, 06-27-2006 20:13:13  
I'll be waiting for that check!
:)



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FarmerDawn

06-27-2006 18:13:16




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 Re: Uh.....yes! in reply to lonestarjeff, 06-27-2006 18:07:16  
Lucky me!! LOL

OK, just as soon as I get Arthur running ... :-)

Dawn



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