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Giving a Ford a Good Retirement

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Pat Kilchermann

07-03-2006 21:57:05




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Hello everyone! Well I found the tractor of my dreams- a 1947 (I was told it was a) 2N. It's in very good shape, and I bought it for $2,000. It's got great tires, and it's got the over-drive shifter on the left side, which really makes it a lot faster going down the road. I’ve borrowed my father-in-law’s flair-mover, and it holds it up off the ground for about 45 minutes or so when the PTO’s not engaged. I’m not sure if that’s good or bad, but I’m guessing it’s less than perfect because it leaks a little around where the PTO hooks up when the cap’s not on.

Anyway, I’m pretty new to the Ford tractor thing. I did a lot of reading a few months back when I began looking for one, but I never read about how to change the oil, flush the coolant, where the air-filter is, and other questions that I have.

So, I really have two main questions:

First, how does my tractor rate? Like, is it in good shape, does it need an overhaul? Here’s the best description that I can give you:
-Oil Pressure when idling (lowest point before it acts like it may stall) is about 12psi. At full throttle the oil pressure is about 32psi.
-Water temp seems to be steady at 160 F.
-Like I said, the PTO attachment’s decline from the highest point last about 45 minutes until it’s on the ground.
-The tractor doesn’t appear to have ANY rust on it, as best as I can tell. The chassis is red, and the only grey is the fenders, and the “hood” panels.
-It’s all 6-volt.
-It starts really easy. I was told to turn the gas off after I turn the engine off, and only turn it on right before I plan on starting it to avoid flooding it. When I do this, it only takes about ¾ of a crank with a little choke before it fires up.
-Like I said, it’s got an over-drive unit where the toolbox usually is. Not sure how that rates.
-Tires show no weather checking. The back tires look new, the front are really narrow, and look al little wore down.
-Has only one front light and the wire is cut.

Secondly, are there any sites that I can visit to learn how to give this amazing piece of machinery and American History the retirement that it deserves? Here’s questions that I have that I’m hoping to have answered:
1) Is there a seal that I can replace to stop the PTO from leaking? What kind of oil does it take?
2) Would it hurt it to run full synthetic oil in the engine? Does it take 30 wieght?
3) Should I run premium gasoline?
4) Is there an online / TSC source for premium plugs, wires, and air/fuel filter?
5) The coolant looks REALLY bad- it’s pretty much a gel it’s so old. How do I flush this, and what kind of coolant do I put back in.


Lastly I just want to say THANK YOU to Ford for making this tractor, and other tractors like it. I am only twenty years old, but with the exception of a handful of G.E. refrigerators, the tens of thousands of M1 Garands out there, there are very few things left from the 40’s that still serve a purpose, and don’t have to be babied. I plan on spoiling this tractor because I want to, not because it requires it. I mean, the thing it a few months shy of it’s 60th birthday, and I drove it 4 miles, brush-hogged about an acre behind my wife’s round pen, and then idled it for about 30 minutes, and it never missed, or knocked, or anything.

Sorry if this got pretty lengthy… Have a good 4th, and let me know if you can help me!

Pat

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DON TX

07-04-2006 13:27:00




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 Re: Giving a Ford a Good Retirement in reply to Pat Kilchermann, 07-03-2006 21:57:05  
As soon as you get yer manuals read up and do a compression test. If you don't want to wait, search this site for 'compression test' and follow the directions. Good to know the base results to compare later. Run all mowers with an ORC, keeps the mower from driving the tractor after power down. HTH
DON TX



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Russ SoCal

07-04-2006 07:45:15




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 Re: Giving a Ford a Good Retirement in reply to Pat Kilchermann, 07-03-2006 21:57:05  
Sounds like you have a good machine there, Pat. A little proper care and you'll have many years of service from it.
In addition to what the guys have said, keep one thing in mind: One bad move or a moment of inattention, and YOUR TRACTOR WILL KILL YOU!
Going down the road in overdrive with the throttle wide open is NOT a good start. Please, be careful turning, be careful on hillsides, learn how to tow properly, and you'll have all the fun one can have with these wonderful little critters.
Russ

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Pat Kilchermann

07-04-2006 08:27:56




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 Re: Giving a Ford a Good Retirement in reply to Russ SoCal, 07-04-2006 07:45:15  
Crap, never thought about that. I'll keep that in mind, Russ. Also, thanks for the link to Smith's old ford's site.

Pat



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D Thomas

07-04-2006 07:00:39




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 Re: Giving a Ford a Good Retirement in reply to Pat Kilchermann, 07-03-2006 21:57:05  
Check out John's site. Really nice and alot of info on it. >Link

the>Link questions and answers section is really nice. also check out the maintenance/repairs section. may help answer some of your questions.
enjoy the N.



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Pat Kilchermann

07-04-2006 06:37:05




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 Re: Giving a Ford a Good Retirement in reply to Pat Kilchermann, 07-03-2006 21:57:05  
Hey awesome, thanks guys!

Yes, there is a LOT of gunk in the radiator. I will order those manuals from here; I can't wait to read up on it.

I have today off, so I think I'm going to give it a bath before I mow the rest of the lawn with it. Does anyone know if it would hurt it to douse the engine with engine degreaser and then hose it off? Or would that hurt it?

Also, I’m going to have to give this Flail mower back soon, any ideas where to find one cheap? My father-in-law recommended just going to auctions around here.

Well thanks for the welcome and information! I REALLY like this tractor. I am a computer technician and network administrator, and I really would rather be outside. Riding this Ford down our dirt road, with the engine wide open…. It really makes me feel good- like I enjoy life a lot more. I think you guys will know what I mean.

-Pat

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Pooh Bear

07-04-2006 09:34:46




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 Re: Giving a Ford a Good Retirement in reply to Pat Kilchermann, 07-04-2006 06:37:05  
The reason I said flush the radiator out the top,
with all that gunk in there, if you drain it out the bottom,
all that gunk will just settle all over the core.
Then when you fill it back up, you still have the gunk.
Better to flush it out the top and get rid of the gunk first.

I use a big plastic garbage bag. Just poke a hole in the bottom.
Then tape it best I can around the radiator neck.
Stick a water hose up thru it and drop the other
end of the bag over into a big bucket.
For the sake of all of us on good clean well water,
please don't just let it pour out on the ground.
After you flush it out good from the top,
then flush it out good thru the bottom.
Refill with a 50-50 mix of antifreeze.

Pooh Bear

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Pat Kilchermann

07-04-2006 14:20:58




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 Re: Giving a Ford a Good Retirement in reply to Pooh Bear, 07-04-2006 09:34:46  
I see...

Two more questions:

1) I've seen about a hundred grease ports all over the old gal. How often do you grease them?

2) Do you guys insure your tractors?

Thanks!

Pat



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Pooh Bear

07-04-2006 14:54:57




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 Re: Giving a Ford a Good Retirement in reply to Pat Kilchermann, 07-04-2006 14:20:58  
I try to grease mine about twice a year.
I use it mostly for just mowing.
But it gets a few other jobs periodically.
An owners manual will give you the official answer.

I have just assumed my tractor is covered by my homeowner policy.
I guess I need to ask my agent about that.
If it was stolen I wouldn't be able to replace it.

Pooh Bear



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B. Jones

07-04-2006 04:41:44




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 Re: Giving a Ford a Good Retirement in reply to Pat Kilchermann, 07-03-2006 21:57:05  

I also have a 1947 2-N and it sounds like you have a really good tractor. One thing you may want to get is a Position control device. I bought a Zane thang position control and it works really good. You can read about them on this forum. B. Jones



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Pooh Bear

07-03-2006 23:22:56




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 Re: Giving a Ford a Good Retirement in reply to Pat Kilchermann, 07-03-2006 21:57:05  
Sounds like you got a great deal on a great tractor.
Let's see if I can answer some of your questions.
Oil Pressure - Great, not perfect, but still great.
Cooling - temp is perfect. Flush and refill soon.
When you open the radiator and look in do you see any gunk?
If so, don't drain the radiator right away.
First, cover the hood and front end with plastic
and seal it up as best you can around the radiator neck.
Then stick a water hose in the the neck and run water
till it runs clear. Then start the motor and run
the water till it runs clear again. Shut it off.
Then drain it from the drain at the bottom.
Refill with a 50-50 mix of antifreeze as normal.
Don't fill it all the way to the top.
Leave it about 2.5 inchs low for expansion.
For oil - Don't know about synthetic. I run straight
30 weight, none of that 10w stuff. Mite go to 40 weight
for my next oil change to help with the leaking.
Mine leaks a little near the front end.
To get an idea of what kind of shape the engine is
really in you can do a compression test.
The hydraulics seem to be in real good shape.
So I wouldn't worry about them none.
Keep it filled with 90weight GL-1 gear oil.
Should be able to fix the seal real easy.
No need for premium gasoline. Waste of money.
These engines are low compression.
You can get tune up kits from TSC, or if you want
to support this fine website instead of some
faceless corporation you can find what you need here.
The air filter is an oil bath filter. So there is
no filter to change. Just wash the filter out and
refill the cup with oil when you do an oil change.
There is no fuel filter in the sense of what you would think.
There is a screen in the tank and one in an elbow
fitting and one above the glass bowl.

Every time, if it has sat for a couple of hours,
before you start it, check the oil.
Just pull the dipstick and look at it to make sure.

It starts good now. Remember these 3 words.
Clean Bright and Tight. Keep the electrical connections like that and you won't have any problems.

Git yourself an IT-F04 manual and a reprint owners manual.
It will be some of the best money you spend on the tractor.

Come back and read read read on this forum.

And congratulations on your aquisition.
Welcome to the forum.

Pooh Bear

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