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8N Engine Block Coolant Drain

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Odie91787

07-04-2006 08:29:09




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I want to drain and flush the radiator on the 1950 8N I bought recently. I believe this is a later model 1950, withe Serial number starting with 8n283___. However, the enging block petcock valve for draining coolant, just a little above and to the rear of the engine oil dipstick, has no handles on it. I can"t see where they were broken off, so maybe there never were any. However, the other old tractors I"m somewhat familiar with always had petcocks with handles, sort of like wing nuts, and the petcock on the bottom of the radiator itself does have handles. Question: is removing and replacing the engine block petcock a fairly simple task, and are replacements available? Thanks.

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ZANE

07-04-2006 14:05:19




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 Re: 8N Engine Block Coolant Drain in reply to Odie91787, 07-04-2006 08:29:09  
It is useless to drain and flush the radiator.

The only way you can really do a good cleaning of the radiator is to remove it and have it professionally rodded out to remove the built up crud in the flues. Flushing it by draining it and pouring water through it does nothing except maybe clear up the coolant color because the stuff that is detrimental to the cooling is stuck in the top of the flue openings. The coolant enters the top of the radiator and so do the particles that are in the coolant but the crud stop in the openings of the top of the flues and will not go down.

There is one thing you can do that will move some of the crud up and out the top of the radiator and that is to take the clamp off the bottom hose and open the hose enough to get the end of an air blow gun into the hose and start flooding the radiator with lots of water at the top. Pulse the air gun just enough to force the water up and out the top of the radiator. Best to have your storm suit on because it will go everywhere.

Be carefull that you don't overpressurize the radiator which is easy to do when you are using 100 PSI air pressure. Just pulse it enough to shoot the water up out the top of the radiator.

Draining the block is about the same story. That crud that is sitting in the bottom of the block is not going to move by opening the drain cock or removing it. The only way to really get most of the crud out of the block without tearing it completely down and having it boiled out is to remove the two end welsh (Freeze) plugs and do the same thing with lots of water and air. That will get most of it out.

Wear old clothes! They won't be any good when you get done.

Zane

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Dan

07-04-2006 11:48:39




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 Re: 8N Engine Block Coolant Drain in reply to Odie91787, 07-04-2006 08:29:09  
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Fairly simple? Depends. The originals were made of brass and could strip easily. Problem is, sometimes these drain cocks have been left in so long they are almost fused to the block, and can be tricky to remove - take care. Here is three original drain cocks I recieved off ebay that I refirbished, getting ready to bring my 48 8N trailer queen in to get here closer to original (I won't call it a true restoration yet). If you look close, you can see two have a "B" stamped in them (block), and one had a "R" stamped in it (radiator).

If you aren't a stickler for originality, you can get standard modern drain cocks at any decent hardware store.

Good luck,
Dan

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Dell (WA)

07-04-2006 09:16:34




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 Re: 8N Engine Block Coolant Drain in reply to Odie91787, 07-04-2006 08:29:09  
Oldie..... ....engine drain cock (with wing handles) p/n: 9N-8115-A.

As far as I know, these are just regular engine/radiator drains; 1/4" pipe, I think.

They are frequently removed from the block by desperate starter remover guys to gain additional angle purchase for starter removal. I didn't find that necessary when I removed my starter; of course I know how to hold my tongue "juss-sew" (grin)..... ...Dell

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Gregg E

07-04-2006 08:32:22




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 Re: 8N Engine Block Coolant Drain in reply to Odie91787, 07-04-2006 08:29:09  
If you cant access that one there should be one on the bottom of the radiator. If not just remove the bottom radiator hose to drain it. Gregg E
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