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Paul M. Walsh

07-11-2006 20:55:22




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Can someone explain to me why a 4th gear, or a high gear is important on a 8N if you have a bucket. I have a neighbor who says this is important. But, I am not able to find a 8N tractor to buy with a 4th high gear. I don't want to buy one that doesn't have this gear, because I don't want my neighbor to tell me for the next few years, "I told you should have listened to me." thanks Paul in NW Wisconsin

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Dell (WA)

07-12-2006 00:21:09




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 Re: Hi Gear Transmission in reply to Paul M. Walsh, 07-11-2006 20:55:22  
Paul..... ...not to make "fun" of you, but yer question reminds me of some kiddy school game where you start a secret word and whisper it to yer neighbor which whispers the word to his neighbor as fast as they can and 20 kids later, you find out the ending word isn't the like the beginning word. (grins)

I'm certain yer question makes perfect sense to you and you deserve a serious answer. All 8N's came from the factory with a 4-speed tranny. And 4th gear is high gear for traveling down the highway. Incidentally, 9Ns & 2Ns (which look like 8Ns) have 3-speed trannys and 3rd gear is high gear for traveling down the highway.

Howsomevers; what yer friendly neighbor alludes to is this; There were dealer installed auxillary trannys; popularally called "Sherman's" after the Sherman Equipment Company that made them. They had an OVERDRIVE version that stepped up the 4th gear by 66% for a highway speed of 23mph instead of 15mph in straight 4th gear.

But the un-asked question is really this, where you write..... ."Can someone explain to me why a 4th gear, or a high gear is important on a 8N if you have a bucket. I have a neighbor who says this is important"..... ...the keyword is "bucket". Now pay attention here.

Buckets or frontend loaders require hydraulic power to lift, don't they? The 8N's built-in hydraulic pump is powered by the PTO and everytime you clomp yer clodhoppers on the clutch pedal, the tranny driven PTO stops turning. Which means the hydraulic pump stops pumping. This is very troubleing when you run yer buckett innnna big pile of stuff to lift, 'cuz ya gotta stop yer tractor with the clutch and guess what happens to the PTO driven hydraulic pump?

This slight hydraulic problem is solved by an engine driven front pulley mounted extra hydraulic pump. And guess what, the engine always keeps pumping no matter iff'n yer stomppin' on the clutch or not. Isn't that amazing?

And now you can tell yer friendly know-it-all neighbor, he don't know shutt from shynola. ..... ..respectfully, Dell

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Marty 2N IL

07-12-2006 05:09:31




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 Re: Hi Gear Transmission in reply to Dell (WA), 07-12-2006 00:21:09  
I personaly like the shift pattern on my 2N three speed better than the shift pattern on my 8N or 600. Reverse and second are straight back and forth. I don't have a loader on either but using my back scoop and mower the three speed works great. The four speed is a little more awkward and reverse is too fast for me. Marty



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TheOldHokie

07-12-2006 05:54:55




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 Re: Hi Gear Transmission in reply to Marty 2N IL, 07-12-2006 05:09:31  
Bingo! - that shift pattern (R/1) is also used in newer nachines with 3/6 speed gearboxes. My Kubby is so equipped and "loadering" is essentially a F/R shuttle. I must quibble however WRT the 9N/2N reverse - that's also way too fast for me.


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