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Pooh Bear

07-18-2006 19:50:40

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Ok, we have done the flip over backwards question.
Now let's do the roll over to the side question.
If you sense the tractor is about to tip over,
what should you do (to avoid roll over or avoid being injured).

I was in this situation and my instinct was to jump
off the tractor in the direction of roll over.
But after thinking about it I doubt I could have jumped clear.
And I don't think I could jump fast enough to the other side.
Jumping forward wouldn't work.
And I couldn't possibly jump backwards off the seat.
And backwards wouldn't matter cause I would get
chewed up by the brush hog.

So, It would be best to avoid a rollover all together,
but what do you do if it starts to happen.

Pooh Bear
(Ol' Fluff for Brains)

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James Rader

07-19-2006 19:43:14

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Re: Tractor Roll Over Question in reply to Pooh Bear, 07-18-2006 19:50:40

Dells post is great as it shows the timeline. The reaction time for a person in a car to react to a situation on the road I have been told is about 2 seconds but often about 4. That is the time a person takes to see, process (think about) and then take make a physical reaction. Looking at a 2 second period of time in those diagrams... well your just to late.

James

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Empennage

07-19-2006 08:12:19

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Re: Tractor Roll Over Question in reply to Pooh Bear, 07-18-2006 19:50:40

My Brother-in-laws brother was killed when his Dad"s 2N rolled over on him backing a wagon up on the family wood lot in Durham NH.

Be careful.

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Pooh Bear

07-19-2006 06:30:01

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Re: Tractor Roll Over Question in reply to Pooh Bear, 07-18-2006 19:50:40

One thing I forgot to mention.
We are all assuming being on a steep slope.
Late Sunday afternoon I was on fairly flat ground.
The right tires hit a hump buried under some thick brush.
The right side of the tractor went up over the hump.
Then the left front wheel dropped over into a hole.
That's when I thought it was going over.
But then both rear wheels dropped over into the hole.
And the brush hog landed with one side on the hump.
That's when I was stuck good. Relieved I didn't roll over.
I was down there till nearly 1am with a shovel digging.
I finally got the hump dug out from under the hog
enough to drive the tractor away from it.

I have learned my lesson (hopefully).
I'm not driving into thick brush when I don't know what's there.
I'm gonna fence the whole area off and let the cows clear it.
Mostly kudzu anyway. That stuff is pure candy to cows.

Pooh Bear

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Jerry Marks

07-19-2006 06:27:46

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Re: Tractor Roll Over Question in reply to Pooh Bear, 07-18-2006 19:50:40

Emergency medicine has changed the designation of MVA...motor vehicle accidents...to MVC...motor vehicle crashes...because it is felt that almost 100% of these incidences can be prevented and are, therefore, not accidents. The common denominator in all of this is the person in the operator's seat. Listen to that little guy on your shoulder. The moment that you begin to hear his voice, stop what you are doing and re-evaluate the situation. There is no need to push the envelope when your life is at stake. Happy tractoring!
Jerry

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TIMW(PA)

07-19-2006 05:37:49

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Re: Tractor Roll Over Question in reply to Pooh Bear, 07-18-2006 19:50:40

I've always heard that the best thing to do was turn the wheel downhill if it start to feel like it is getting too loose. You can see from Dells pics that by turning uphill is how they induced the roll over. But like every one said avoid the situation in the first place, cause I doubt if you would have time to actually jump clear of it....Tim

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Boss Hog

07-19-2006 04:43:49

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Re: Tractor Roll Over Question in reply to Pooh Bear, 07-18-2006 19:50:40

Jumping off the downhill side is a bad idea.

By the time you can react the tractor will have likely rolled over significantly. You"d basically be jumping off right into the ground.

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Jerry (AL)

07-19-2006 04:26:52

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Re: Tractor Roll Over Question in reply to Pooh Bear, 07-18-2006 19:50:40

As some of you might remember, back last summer a fellow about 1/2 mile away was killed on a rollover. It was gruesome. They had to get another tractor to turn it off the older gentleman.

In looking at the acident site, one thing was very clear. The fellow had just bought some land and was clearing it up with a bush hog. Briars and sapplings were high and he couldn't really see well what was there. There were somne very big ruts and he was running parallel to them on a slope. The spot was on a power right of way that crossed his property. The tire slipped off the bank into the ruts and over he went.

SOme things were very clear. He couldn't see the ground there, the property was new and unknown to him, and he was trying to cut to close to the drop. I firmly believe that's why they make brush killer and roundup for those ditches and spots that are dangerous to mow.

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Bill(Wis)

07-19-2006 00:39:31

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Re: Tractor Roll Over Question in reply to Pooh Bear, 07-18-2006 19:50:40

Best to widen front and back wheels if you're operating on hillsides. With wheels widened out and low center of gravity of an N you'll be all right. Don't worry about wheel track being wider than width of cut. That has little to do with anything. If you want the tractor's vertical center of gravity, go to Nebraska Test for your tractor.

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ericlb

07-18-2006 20:53:05

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Re: Tractor Roll Over Question in reply to Pooh Bear, 07-18-2006 19:50:40

after watching the replys for several days on backflips and rollovers it needs to be mentioned that once either one of these starts to happen unless the tractor is fitted with a rops system including seat belts, there is very little chance of the operator surviving, a person has to use these things responsibily and be prepared to take responsibility for his / her own actions, these fords are amazing machines and while much more stable than some other brands and types they are ag tractors, and not designed to be substituted for atv's or dozers, " if it looks dangerous it probably is" use common sence and work on a "plan B" to get the task done, now ive probably made some folks mad here, but its the truth

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Dell (WA)

07-18-2006 20:34:07

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Re: Tractor Roll Over Question in reply to Pooh Bear, 07-18-2006 19:50:40

Pooh..... ...guess it is time to re-post these dramatic pictures as part of the answer to your roll-over question. Testing was done by remote radio control (which interested me as an longtime radio engineer) I didn't choose these pictures but they are interesting.

third party image
did NOT result in roll-over

resulted in roll-over

For more info, check out the link to Colo State Univ Ag-School..... ...Dell

Colo State Univ Ag-School Roll-Over Paper

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Kelly Jewell (KY)

07-18-2006 20:08:27

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Re: Tractor Roll Over Question in reply to Pooh Bear, 07-18-2006 19:50:40

I had this discussion with a customer in souther Ohio along the Ohio river really steep land and we were talking about tractors and rotary cutters mounted vs pull type and Kelvin said pull type was for sure the best. I didn't really understand and he said what gets you is dropping in a hole with the lower tire and the cutter pulling down on the rear of the tractor. Anyone had this to happen?

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John in Bama

07-19-2006 06:33:28

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Re: Tractor Roll Over Question in reply to Kelly Jewell (KY), 07-18-2006 20:08:27

Well, just last night I was on my NH and was hogging, and it almost happened to me. It wasn"t even much of an uphill slope either, but I should have known better since we all had this discussion last year. I had to slice to the right along the slope trying to miss the pine tree that was right in front of me. Was too busy navigating the slope to look ahead. Well, as I cut right uphill, the left back tire dropped down and pulled the right front off the ground. I cut the wheels back hard left and gave it all she had and came out still upright, but let me tell you that is one of the most harrowing experiences that I have ever had on a tractor! I should have known better, and like everyone else always says, and something I try and remember everytime on that machine is "if it don"t feel right, don"t do it!" Believe me, those aren"t just some words, but something to live by and just may save a life!

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Am-Seb

07-19-2006 12:59:40

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Re: Tractor Roll Over Question in reply to John in Bama, 07-19-2006 06:33:28

More info. Search the internet under "tractor safety pulling from drawbar." Incidentally, I wouldn't try pulling on anything much lower than the surface the tractor is on, not something in a ditch for example. For overturning sideways search under "tractor safety overturning on side hills." There's much good information on many sites under these headings. Re side hills a good rule would be: Err on the side of caution, not on the side of a hill.

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