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Bluestem

07-25-2006 20:58:28




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My 49 8N has a Davis loader on the front end. It works very well.

What I'm wondering is, would it safely lift a large, round bale of hay with a bucket spike? I do have cacl in the rear wheels.

I figure that the steering wouldn't be a lot of fun, but I wouldn't be moving a bunch of bales, just once in a while.

I just don't want to hurt the old girl, or myself.




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Bluestem

07-26-2006 20:45:36




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 Re: Lifting bales in reply to Bluestem, 07-25-2006 20:58:28  
Well, I really didn't think it was a real likely idea, but thought this was probably the place to find out for sure.

Many thanks to those of you that offered constructive replies.



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Jerry/MT

07-26-2006 16:37:24




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 Re: Lifting bales in reply to Bluestem, 07-25-2006 20:58:28  
It depends on the weight of the bale. What's you loader rated for and how much do your bales weigh? I'm sorry I can't answer your question without more info.



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James Rader

07-26-2006 12:39:16




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 Re: Lifting bales in reply to Bluestem, 07-25-2006 20:58:28  
This is truly the one thing I wish my N could do... I so wish I could run down the road and buy a couple big round bails and tote them home... but once they are home how do I move them around??? I thought about running a bar through the bail and then making a "tongue" to be able to roll (drag) it? I don't have a loader, thought about getting one, even found a good deal on one, but I am afraid it will only encourage me to go to far. I also thought about pushing it with the grader blade, but it doesn't sound like I would have a lot of control on where it is going...

Thoughts Ideas?

James

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Russ SoCal

07-26-2006 12:28:42




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 Bale dolley in reply to Bluestem, 07-25-2006 20:58:28  
Bluestem,
Not likely to be cost effective for an occasional bale, but it sure looks like a neat toy.
Russ
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Danny in CO

07-26-2006 08:05:09




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 Re: Lifting bales in reply to Bluestem, 07-25-2006 20:58:28  
I buy 4x3x8 ft 1100# bales of hay for my horses. I wouldn't try to lift one of these with 48 8N. But I can drag them where ever I want. I just can't stack them. Even if the loader will lift them and the rear tires stay on the ground, I think there will be TOO much strain on the tractor.

Danny



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Dean

07-26-2006 04:55:44




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 Re: Lifting bales in reply to Bluestem, 07-25-2006 20:58:28  
I would not recommend this, Blue.

Even if your loader will lift the bales it will be very hard on your front axle, axle support, spindles, and steering.

More importantly, it is dangerous unless you have only flat ground or only drive backward.

A neighbor of mine was seriously injured moving stumps with the front end loader on his AC WD-45 with loaded rears and rear weights. With a heavy load in the bucket he started down an incline. The rear wheels were not loaded enough to hold the tractor and down the hill he went. At the bottom of the hill was a gully. The tractor went into the gully, rolled over on top of him and crushed his pelvis, etc. Most people do not think of this potential hazzard.

Dean

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lonestarjeff

07-25-2006 23:02:58




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 Re: Lifting bales in reply to Bluestem, 07-25-2006 20:58:28  
Not sure what you have, but our round bales are around 1000#. Even if your hydraulic pump would lift it, I think you'll break the front axle.

As I recall the Davis 99 or 100 loaders are rated to 750#? That's just about max even on the rear lift of the N. Too much for the front.

Jeff



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old

07-25-2006 21:18:15




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 Re: Lifting bales in reply to Bluestem, 07-25-2006 20:58:28  
Well I haven't been posting latley but I'll try and see if people will be nice again. Yes you should be able to lift a bale on the front, but and heres the big thing is how heavy a bale. If it was one on the ones I make not you would do a noise dive, unless you have some thing on the 3 point. So what I'm saying is hook a brush hog, back blade etc on the back when you do so and keep it as low as you can when moveing. If its only say a foot off the ground it will not be likely to flip your tractor but if you move it say 8 foot up your looking for trouble

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Joe (IN)

07-26-2006 10:31:53




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 Re: Lifting bales in reply to old, 07-25-2006 21:18:15  
Hey Old, here's some free advice. You can go post if ya wanna post. That's OK. Everybody's glad to have ya. You can go pout and lurk in the background if you get your wittle feewings hurt. That's OK too. But the only one that loses is you. Don't ever make the mistake of thinking that you're so valuable that this forum won't go on without you. It did. It does when Dell takes a vacation, when Zane was in the hospital, and when Soundguy is working 80 hours a week, too. There's too much experience here for it's existance to hinge on any one person. If you want to pick up your toys and go home, do it. Just don't tell us about it. When your "boo hoo I is leavin" post drops off the bottom of the page and everyone has said "aw, too bad please don't leave", you're all but forgotten anyway. Cyberspace is kinda like a bar on the other side of the tracks. If your thin-skinned or easily offended, it might not be the place for ya. Welcome back.

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Hobo,NC

07-26-2006 12:48:50




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 Re: Lifting bales in reply to Joe (IN), 07-26-2006 10:31:53  
Could not have said it enny better.



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old

07-26-2006 11:09:33




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 Re: Lifting bales in reply to Joe (IN), 07-26-2006 10:31:53  
Thats why I stayed gone for a month figureing things would blow over and people could let dead dogs lie but HOBO doesn't seem to want it that way



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Hobo,NC

07-26-2006 12:47:48




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 Re: Lifting bales in reply to old, 07-26-2006 11:09:33  
Seems iffin I wuz out to git ya I would have been all over ya on the other forums. I wuz happy to let it be but no you gotta act like a child and say I have not been nice, Have I not been nice have I in enny way replied to yer post or mailed ya in the last 30 days, I take it you were pointing the finger at me by that statement (nice). It makes no difference to me weather ya post here are not. As a matter of fact I missed ya. I know of no one else who will admit to having mucked up as much stuff as you have and be proud of it as you are. Bet you are legend in your area. Hey’ya one here post up I need to grin every once and awhile. Yer buddy Hobo,NC

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old

07-26-2006 13:12:34




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 Re: Lifting bales in reply to Hobo,NC, 07-26-2006 12:47:48  
I wasn't pointing any fingers at any body. I left because I had 4 or 5 poeple flame me ast month and just got tired of it. I don't have that problem on the other forums and I als hadn't ever used your name as to who had done what till today. Please can't we just let it die and be done with it. As far as messing things up ya I make a mistake once in a while but not very often and your way is your way and my way is may way. If they both work whos to say which is the right or better way. What counts is they work and also do help other poeple. Please isn't this enough

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Hobo,NC

07-26-2006 09:03:35




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 Re: Lifting bales in reply to old, 07-25-2006 21:18:15  
Does that apply to you also are do you make up yer own rules. What ya did wuz wrong you rubbed my nose in the dirt for no reason other than to git a hug from others. So I take it if someone ask you a question or disagrees with ya then they are not nice . Note handle with care does not play well with others.



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old

07-26-2006 09:22:40




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 Re: Lifting bales in reply to Hobo,NC, 07-26-2006 09:03:35  
It was the way you disagreed with me that was WRONG. If/when you disagree with some one you should do it in public not behind closed doors so to speak.



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Hobo,NC

07-26-2006 10:00:10




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 Re: Lifting bales in reply to old, 07-26-2006 09:22:40  
Original email to you

The following message is being sent to you via the Yesterday's Tractor Co. > website. It is in response to the discussion forum message titled : "Re: > Clutch after rejoining my trans/engine" posted on the Nboard Forum
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That's it thats the question I ask so whos next who ya gonna shoot down next

You said "Well HOBO I'm off the forum and will be for a long while because of you. YES you ragged on me and yes if its in back ward it can hang becuse the throw out bear can hang on the cluthc BTDT and learned the hard way and cost me over $100 bucks back in the 70s when $100 was big money. See your not man enough to answer back to me but put it out on the board. I never said who ragged on me but to one person and that was done by e-mail so it was between 3 people but not the whole board"

You said "Now if you had disagreed with me on the forum and not on my front door I would have taken it better but you didn't. I don't ever try to miss lead just offer other opions of what may have been done wrong. And I know niehter one of us was there to see what was done so all we can ever do is make an educted guess, we can not be sure which one if any of us is right or wrong. But the place to agree to disagree is in the forum not behind the back of all the other people. It doesn't help them any if they never see/heer that you may disargee and the reason for it.
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My mistake wuz to ask ya a question I already new the answer to so I do apologize fer that and should of never ask. I do feel bad that I ask it cuzz I already knew the response I would git

Make up yer mind so I will know how to play yer game. Sorry no hugs and kiss'izz from me. If you would have just sliped on in I would have let it go but no you still gotta rub it in, be nice, BTW Welcome Back

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old

07-26-2006 10:32:17




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 Re: Lifting bales in reply to Hobo,NC, 07-26-2006 10:00:10  
Tell you what. You leave me alone and I'll leave you alone and things will be just fine.



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Cargocult

07-26-2006 08:54:09




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 Re: Lifting bales in reply to old, 07-25-2006 21:18:15  
Let me add my bit to the chorus..Welcome Back!! Everybody gets flamed here..it is just part of the internet experience! We need more good folks like U! ;-) CC



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Colin King

07-26-2006 08:00:54




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 Re: Lifting bales in reply to old, 07-25-2006 21:18:15  
Haha, you're back! Yay! :-)

Colin



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Chad OH

07-26-2006 07:09:36




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 Re: Lifting bales in reply to old, 07-25-2006 21:18:15  
Hey Old,
Good to 'see' you around here again.

-Chad



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9n8801

07-26-2006 05:15:39




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 Re: Lifting bales in reply to old, 07-25-2006 21:18:15  
Hi Mr OLD,
I am proud to see you back. WE NEED YOU.. PLEASE STAY WITH US.....



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Greg_Ky

07-25-2006 21:36:38




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 Re: Lifting bales in reply to old, 07-25-2006 21:18:15  
Good to see you here again Old.



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Fly N

07-26-2006 06:30:05




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 Re: Lifting bales in reply to Greg_Ky, 07-25-2006 21:36:38  
I was wondering about this kinda thing myself. If you have a bucket, You can pull the bale out of your pickup, then use the bucket to roll the bale. We have done this numerous times safely. I am leery of picking up a 1300# bale with a small Ford tractor and you should be too. I wonder if it could be "scooted". In other words, barely lift the bale and scoot it along. One would have to be EXTRA careful.

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