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old odie

08-13-2006 16:48:51




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Good news is I finally got out to the weekend place to change the coolant on the sidemount distributor 1950 8N I bought in June. Changed the oil and filter about 3 weeks ago, and have ran it maybe a half hour since. Had bought a new petcock valve from this website for the engine block to replace the cobbled together plug that was in it when I bought the tractor. Bad news is the new petcock seems to be a hair to big to fit the hole, so I had to put the old one back in. Good news is the engine oil still looks clean and pretty, not contaminated. Bad news is after the old coolant finished draining out, black, oily looking sludge kept draining out of both the engine block drain and the petcock at the bottom of the radiator. I left and let it drain, came back an hour and a half later, and it was still oozing out. Was running out of time, so ran the garden hose through the fill cap on the top of the radiator with the drains open, and it filled back up with water gushing out both drains. Bad news is after the water was all out again, the black gunk kept on oozing out. Seriously out of time now, so closed the petcock and put the plug back in the block, and filled it up to move back in the garage. Good news is that neither the petcock or plug leaked, bad news is only took about 8 quarts to fill it - supposed to be 12. Fired it up, and it ran about 30 seconds, then died. 6V system. Cranked over same as always (since I bought it), but just wouldn"t start at all. Checked the distributor cap, and all spark plug wires were tight and bright, but the center wire was loose and corroded, pulled right out without any resistance at all. So, guess next step is probably to replace it. may as well replace all spark plugs and wires at the same time - no idea how old, but they are all covered with the same red spray can paint as the rest of the engine, etc. Pushed the tractor into garage - glad these old beauties are so light and no ballast in tires on mine. Don"t think I had flooded it when trying to start it. Didn"t want to totally drain the battery, either. So started looking for electrical problems after a few minutes of not catching. Question - where did all that black gunk come from, what is it, and am I in deep doo doo with it? Good news is that my wife says maybe I ought to keep the 8N to work on as a hobby and buy a new tractor to do the mowing, grading, etc., out on our 100+ acres of recreational land. (Recreational = too hilly, rocky, poor to farm it). Saw a couple of JD dealers advertising new package deals on JD 5103 2WD tractor in the Texas Electric Coop magazine. Wonder if these might be good options. Anyway, long story short, I love this forum and any and all advice, opinions, sympathy, etc., will be appreciated. Not trying to make the 8N look like new, just enjoying puttering around and trying to make it a good running little tractor. Thanks for any responses.

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Jim.UT

08-14-2006 16:15:39




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 Re: good news bad news in reply to old odie, 08-13-2006 16:48:51  
I parted out a '51 8N a few months ago. Something tells me I still have the engine block petcock in my collection of "stuff", but it will take some doing to find it. My garage (at least my half of it) is littered with old tractor parts. If you're interested in it I'll try to located it.



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Dell (WA)

08-13-2006 19:50:11




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 Re: good news bad news in reply to old odie, 08-13-2006 16:48:51  
old odie..... ....in the long-ago before good anti-freeze time, you needed to add "water-pump lubricant" to the radiator. There are many on the market. Then there are radiator "stop-leaks" to chemically seal leaky radiators and leaky head-gaskets. A $5 can of panther pi$$ beats $150 radiators and $20 headgaskets.

The only way to remove all yer "crud" is to chemically clean yer coolant system. Go shopping. Just beaware of potential leaks. They used to use oatmeal to seal Model-T leaks. Nuttin' new, eh?..... ...Dell

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old odie

08-14-2006 07:38:06




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 Re: good news bad news in reply to Dell (WA), 08-13-2006 19:50:11  
Thanks for the information. Sounds like probably just the remains of some additive someone used in the past. I dont' want to get it too clean - might open up a leak somewhere. Think I'll just change the antifreeze a couple of times a year, and gradually get a little more out each time. As long as it doesn't overheat, should be ok. Also, will change the wire from the coil to the distributor tower, since it feels loose and there is corrossion on the end in the distributor. Little by little, I'll make a running machine out of this good old tractor yet. Noticed I have 6.00X16 on one front and 6.50X16 on the other. The 6.50 is almost rubbing, and all tires in pretty bad shape altogether. Thought these came with 4.00 front tires originally. Will I need new rims to go to 4.00? If so, probably easier and cheaper to just put 6.00's back on the front. What do you think? Thanks again for your help. Appreciate this forum very much.

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corvette8n

08-14-2006 11:40:20




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 Re: good news bad news in reply to old odie, 08-14-2006 07:38:06  
the 4 inch wide tires are usually 19" tires
you would need different rims.
I'd stick to the 6:00 x 16.



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old odie

08-14-2006 12:11:09




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 Re: good news bad news in reply to corvette8n, 08-14-2006 11:40:20  
Thanks, I appreciate the advice.



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