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Dearborn Scoop Operation

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Sal

05-16-2001 08:01:17




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Hi, I have a Dearborn Scoop and finally hooked it up last week...I experimetned with it and it worked very well at scooping up dirt, sod, gravel. But I did have a couple of problems that I would like some help on:

1) It was a real chore to dump out the load...moving the dump handle while on the seat was tough, I ended up getting off the tractor and shoveling out about 1/3 of a load. Do these things dump well using the lever form the seat...is there something to adust on my top link?

2. I found that while driving with a load that the bucket would sway a lot and hit the tires unless I lowered the lift a lot...which then caused a lot of the load to shake out. I don't see a way to hook up my stableizer bars on the bucket since the pins for the lift arms are only long enough for the lift arms and there is no room to add the stabilizer bars...should I get longer pins (these look original)?...would the stabilizer bars then hit the bucket?

Any other help on the use of the scoop...it digs great...need help on dumping it and the sway of of the bucket when transporting.

I have been experimenting with the length of the top link, this has got to be key...still working on this part.

Thanks.

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Tom-Pa

05-16-2001 13:11:29




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 Re: Dearborn Scoop Operation in reply to Sal, 05-16-2001 08:01:17  
The toplink attach point on your scoop should have 2 sets of holes. 1 set in front of the other. The front set is for a shallow scrape/scoop and the rear set is for a deeper cut. that is the main adjustment as when it came out they had fixed toplinks that had to be unbolted to adjust..just like the stay bars for the lift arms..the screw type we have now makes it a lot easier. the main set adjustment was 24 inches and I use that for the front and just change attach holes for the deeper cut. works for me at least...
As for the dumping, I just give it a good yank and let it trip..Do not keep pivot points lubed unless you use a dry lubricant. The wet type lube will attract dirt and then you have an abrasive working on your pivots and pins.
Good Luck
Tom-Pa

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Steve W......maybe this will help

05-16-2001 10:45:50




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 Re: Dearborn Scoop Operation in reply to Sal, 05-16-2001 08:01:17  
I wrote this awhile ago....don't know much about Dearborns scoop, but maybe this will help:

I bought a new 3 point hitch scoop from Central Tractor last week. Against everybodies advise, the one I bought is a Howse, with a latch on the frame. But I thought of a cheap way to fix it, and I already have installed and used this invention, and it works great. So here it is.

The problem with a frame mounted latch is that if the load is in the back of the scoop, it won't tip. Or if there is too much of a load, the trip gizmo has too much pressure, and is "Stuck".

To fix this, I mounted a double pulley on the frame, directly over the latch. Then I mounted a single pulley on the latch. The trip rope runs from a tie off point next to the tractor seat. Then through the double pulley, down to the latch single pulley, back up through the double pulley, and then it goes down, and is tied off to the back of the bucket.

So now, when I pull the rope, it pulls the bucket and the latch at the same time. This fixes the stuck latch problem, and the mechanical advantage tipping the bucket isn't bad either.

It's a bummer to have to resort to fixing a design flaw on a brand new piece of equipment, but this fix works great. Not a genious as a "Zane Thang", but I hope I help one person. I feel I owe this board a lot.

>>>After I posted this, Steve (IA)added this:

Followed Steve Warfles instructions (link below) for adding a pulley system to the scoop with the latch on the frame like my King Kutter. Couple of bucks and about 1 hour and I had it rigged and it works great!! I added one thing. I return spring between the latch lever and the frame to return the latch to lock position. This might keep me from having to drop the bucket again to relatch. Great idea, Steve. Thanks for sharing. Hope this link works, if not the original is back 6 or 7 pages on 3/27/00. Steve

>>This is a nice improvement....thanks Steve...isn't this board great?

Good Luck, Steve

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Sal

05-16-2001 10:04:35




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 Re: Dearborn Scoop Operation in reply to Sal, 05-16-2001 08:01:17  
The pivot points are on the rusty side...is there a good penetrating lubricant that I can use to help free them up in short order?

Thanks



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Jhill

05-16-2001 10:10:05




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 Re: Re: Dearborn Scoop Operation in reply to Sal, 05-16-2001 10:04:35  
I just squirt some oil in them and work the bucket several times while it is empty. It always frees right up for me.



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Sal

05-16-2001 10:19:37




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 Re: Re: Re: Dearborn Scoop Operation in reply to Jhill, 05-16-2001 10:10:05  
thanks a lot...I will hit with the oil at all of the pivot points and move it around to get back in shape...I also remember that my sway chains do seem a bit long, someone added in an adjustable link on them, seems to add just a bit over 2" to the length...I will shorten them up a bit...I can't wait to be able to dump the bucket from the seat!...thanks a lot



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JHILL

05-16-2001 08:12:01




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 Re: Dearborn Scoop Operation in reply to Sal, 05-16-2001 08:01:17  
I have a Dearborn scoop also. I use it alot. You have to make sure all the pivot points a free and the front arm don't rub together to hard. I just reach back and give it a hard yank and it trips. I set the top link so the bottom of the bucket is level or points slightly down when lifted.

Are your stabilizer chains ( the chains between the pto bracket and the lower lift arms) too long? You could try shortening them to keep the bucket from hitting the tires. My wheels are set in the midrange and I don't have a problem.

Good Luck

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