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RP-40-9n

08-18-2006 20:01:56




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has anybody ever tried putting an electric fuel pump on one of the ole n tractors, ive been thinking of trying it. seems the only problem would be getting too much fuel overloading the system and flooding out. any thoughts? RP




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jjplace

08-19-2006 20:29:02




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 Re: fuel pump for 9n in reply to RP-40-9n, 08-18-2006 20:01:56  
THAT A REALLY STUIP MOVE NON PRESSURE GRAVITY FEED SYSTEM WORK GREAT SO BURN 3 GALLON OF GAS IN 1 MINUTE AND IT NEWER TRACTOR I SAID MAYBE IF THINK YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH FUEL SYSTEM LOOK OTHER PLACES I CLOSE SYSTEM BACK TO FACTORY SPEC THE TRACTOR BETTER NOW. NO MORE AIR LEAK THUR HOSES LOOK AT THE FLOAT CHECK AIR FLOW THUR THE MOTOR YOU MIGHT HAVE CYLINDER PUSHING AIR DOWN THERE WHICH WOULD CAUSE SOME PROBLEM BUT MIGHT TRY REBUILD YOUR CARB ONE FULL TURN OFF SET THE TRACTOR RUN GOOD SET THERE THERE MIGHT SOMETHING ELSE WRONG DIS POINT WIRE ECT

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dan hill

08-19-2006 18:42:19




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 Re: fuel pump for 9n in reply to RP-40-9n, 08-18-2006 20:01:56  
Send me the money instead.Gravity works fine.



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MikeT

08-19-2006 09:48:07




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 Re: fuel pump for 9n in reply to RP-40-9n, 08-18-2006 20:01:56  
The previous owner of my 52' 8N with a 6 cylinder Funk conversion had put an electric fuel pump on it. I took it off cause I didn't like the noise it made. Been running fine ever since.

However, that said, the electric fuel pump did change pitch when the gas tank ran empty. That change in the noise it made gave me enough time to stop what I was doing and head for the barn for more gas.



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dlplost

08-18-2006 22:39:35




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 Re: fuel pump for 9n in reply to RP-40-9n, 08-18-2006 20:01:56  
Been there, done that. I had intermitint fuel problems on my 1950 8N, so i installed an inline filter, and an electric pump. It worked fine, but didn't solve my problem. Later i found a LEAF in the gas tank that was causing my problem.
After i removed the leaf from the tank i put things back to original.

But the electric pump did work just fine, no flooding or other problems. Ran it with the pump for about a year. You just need to use a LOW (4-5 psi) preasure pump, not a high preasure pump. YES it does work.

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old

08-18-2006 20:48:04




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 Re: fuel pump for 9n in reply to RP-40-9n, 08-18-2006 20:01:56  
Only reason for putting a fuel pump on is to be able to use an in line fuel filter whcih is a waste of money. So I would say your tring to mess with/over think some thing that has worked for 50 plus year. Or in other words your crazyer then I am and I'm just about nuts.



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rp-40-9N

08-18-2006 21:07:05




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 Re: fuel pump for 9n in reply to old, 08-18-2006 20:48:04  
HI OLD, IM 66 YRS OLD BEEN DEALING MOTORIZED VEHICLES 40 YRS. AND I HAPPEN TO BELEIVE THAT TODAYS FUEL SYSTEMS AND FILTERING UNITS ARE AT LEAST 100 TIMES MORE EFFECIENT AND TROUBLE FREE THAN ANY 1940 SYSTEM IS EVER GONNA BE. IM JUST AN OLD NEW TECHIE KINDA GUY LOOKIN FER A BETTER WAY IN ALL THINGS. HAVE A GOOD ONE rp



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old

08-18-2006 21:36:43




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 Re: fuel pump for 9n in reply to rp-40-9N, 08-18-2006 21:07:05  
Not as old as you are but one thing I have learned over the years the old saying KISS. KEEP IT SIMPLE STUDID works better then to try to put to much junk in the system. Now days with all the computers they put on cars etc its just one more thing to go bad and cost a lot more money to fix. I'm from the old school KISS or your just looking for trouble

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Right ON!! (CC)

08-19-2006 05:49:21




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 Re: fuel pump for 9n in reply to old, 08-18-2006 21:36:43  
Me 2 Old School 2!! I can't understand why these fine machines actaully managed to run all these years without modern "stuffs" we have nowadays! 10-4 on the computers! It is just a scam to make $$ for the service folks & parts manufacturers! Seems like it would be better to use the stock fuel system, rather than addin' anything that will go wrong! Ford knew what he was doin' when he designed these fine machines! I don't like to work on newfangled autymobiles, because it requires Too Much Shop Equipment! We don't NEED any stinkin' computers! On autymobiles, that is...desktop is OK, otherwise this forum would not exist, hehehe!! CC, traditionalist. BTW ; Good Luck.Zane! I'd scrap the van and buy an OLD One that is Easier to work on, attracts more attention than a new one, and has a Higher Resale VAlue! Not to mention Lower Taxes!! CC

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ZANE

08-19-2006 04:26:43




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 Re: fuel pump for 9n in reply to old, 08-18-2006 21:36:43  
I agree with you OLD. I just wish some of this later stuff were as simple as the N Ford tractors are.

I have been trying to get a 1990 Ford Aerostar running that I bought dead and am trying to resurrect and it has just about whipped me. I towed it into town finally to a friends shop who has an engine anyalizer and he thinks maybe the computer is shot???? A rebuilt one is about $150 and there is no guarentee it will fix it???? I am going up there today and drag it back home and replace the plugs and check the timing and plug wiring again for the third time and see if I can't get it going again without paying him to guess like I am doing for free. I can put a computer in it myself and hope for the best if all else fails. That is all he can do. He says even though the analizer says it is the computer it is no guarentee it is not something else??? I can guess!

If all else fails I am going to pull the timing cover and see if the chain has slipped a notch or two. Can't check the valve timing on this thing because you just about have to pull the engine out the bottom of the car to get the valve covers off and I already had it out of the car to replace a head and gaskets on both. Shoot!

KISS would be nice!

Zane

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old

08-19-2006 08:13:42




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 Re: fuel pump for 9n in reply to ZANE, 08-19-2006 04:26:43  
Yep BTDT on a 91 Geo tracker I have. Thought the computer went bad and had it rebuilt. Cost me $400 to have it done then put it back in and still no go. Shipped it back and they sent a second one and still no go. Called them and did a few hours of trouble shooting and found a bear wire under the intake manifold and fixed that and all has been well since then. I also moved all the wires because they layed on the side of the block and to me that was just a problem waiting to happen. My self I prefer the older car/trucks. My wifes car is a 1980 chev and my tracuk is a 1980 chev and they for the most part just keep on keeping on

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Jerry (AL)

08-19-2006 05:19:35




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 Re: fuel pump for 9n in reply to ZANE, 08-19-2006 04:26:43  
I'm with you on the complicated newer vehicles. I just got an email from my new company vehicle last night, a Chevy Avalanche. It's the onstar engine diagnostics. Can't get over how the thing can measure the tire pressure. Also, this vehicle will run on Ethanol or regular gas and when on a flat highway will cut off 4 cylinders and run on 4. I'm sure it is an engineering marvel but man, when something goes kaput, I'm glad someone else will be paying for the repairs.

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old

08-19-2006 08:08:46




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 Re: fuel pump for 9n in reply to Jerry (AL), 08-19-2006 05:19:35  
Yep I've heard about the 8 cylinder/4 cylinder thing. It was tired years ago but didn't work well then but now days with the computer its will probably work ok till something brakes and then it will be high $$ to fix or scrap iron or maybe both. To many things now days are made to be trown away after they have XXXXX number of miles on them.

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Joe(NYC)

08-19-2006 06:05:50




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 Re: fuel pump for 9n in reply to Jerry (AL), 08-19-2006 05:19:35  
I do believe that the cutting off of cylinders was already tried back in the 1970"s. I think it was a GM ca, caddy?, but it didn"t work. Good luck with yours.



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Jerry (AL)

08-19-2006 09:50:33




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 Re: fuel pump for 9n in reply to Joe(NYC), 08-19-2006 06:05:50  
Cadillac tried that way back there.

It must be OK because all the GM SUV's pretty much have it 2007 going gorward.



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ron,ar

08-18-2006 20:28:47




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 WHY? in reply to RP-40-9n, 08-18-2006 20:01:56  
It is gravity fed to the carb, what would be the need for a pump? Electrical problems abound here already with all the conversions/modifications. It seems to me that an electric fuel pump would only add to an already taxed electrical system not to mention a needle and seat that was not designed for the pressure. A fuel leak under pressure would be disasterous if it sprayed on the generator/alternator or distributor. JMHO

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