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Plastrontom

08-22-2006 16:10:28




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I purchased and restored a 9N Ford about 16 years ago. Others that have seen it have told me that it is a 1939, but I'd like to know for sure. There is no serial number. The block has a raised pad on the left side, directly under the head which has never been stamped, and never ground off, because the finish of the pad is as cast. There is a small tag, about 1 1/4 " long screwed to the block, where the starter mounts that is embossed "123". This tractor had 9 X 36 wheels and tires, which I still have, but are in rough shape. Also the starter button is mounted on the left side of the dash, not by the shifter. It has a steel hood, and the fuel door is not hinged, but is held on with four clips. Any input would be appreciated.
Thanks.

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Plastrontom

08-22-2006 20:34:21




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 Re: Help to identify my 9N in reply to Plastrontom, 08-22-2006 16:10:28  
I still can not make out a serial number, but I'll try again in daylight. My engine has no frost plugs, and has a four blade pusher fan. The grease zirks are on the front of the spindles. It has the cast aluminum battery tray, dash and tranny cover, and double rib on the fenders, but the steering wheel is three spoke, and the rear axles have rivets. And Dell you are right about the little tag, it is cast in place.

This tractor was in quite nice shape, although the steering is somewhat loose. I bought if at an estate sale from a man who was a Ford tractor dealer in West Salem, WI. There was not a lot of paint on it when I bought it, but the man's son told me it had been stored inside for at least 20 years, and since I've had it, it has always been inside. Anyway when I bought it there was no compression, so I tore it down expecting the worse, but found that the engine had been completely overhauled, shortly before the tractor was stored away. It honestly looked like it was never run, except all of the rings were stuck. the valve seats were perfect. Anyway I haven't used it a lot, just for messing around here and there.
One thing about this tractor, the control for the three point is very poor. There is no middle, it's either all the way up, or all the way down.
Thanks again for all your input, I'll let you know if I find a serial.
Tom

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don t.-9n180179

08-23-2006 01:58:17




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 Re: Help to identify my 9N in reply to Plastrontom, 08-22-2006 20:34:21  
9N and 2N had draft control only.
Position control came w/the 8N.
Check the archives for a Zane Thang, aftermarket position control device. Well made, easy to install.
HTH.....don t. .....



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Plastrontom

08-22-2006 19:35:17




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 Re: Help to identify my 9N in reply to Plastrontom, 08-22-2006 16:10:28  
Thanks to all of you, it is good information and I appreciate your help.
Tom



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James Rader

08-22-2006 19:10:32




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 Re: Help to identify my 9N in reply to Plastrontom, 08-22-2006 16:10:28  
The one thing that I know was unique to the 39 and 40 was the cast aluminum dash and transmission cover. I know several other things differ but that is one thing that helps me date the older ones pretty quick. My 40 has the gas door that is hinged, so I would agree with the guess of 39 is a good guess or maybe an early 40... Let us know if you make out anything on the serial#...

James



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9Nman

08-22-2006 17:41:22




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 Re: Help to identify my 9N in reply to Plastrontom, 08-22-2006 16:10:28  
Sounds like it is an early tractor with the things you mentioned. The rear tire size should be 32" not 36". Other things to look for on the early tractors-

Double ribbed fenders, 4 spoke steering wheel, ignition dash light, small generator, 4 blade push fan, smooth cast rear axles, grease fittings on front side of front axle...

There are a lot of things unique to the early tractors, and most of them have been changed, which is what gives them value to a collector.

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Sean (TX)

08-22-2006 17:29:32




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 Re: Help to identify my 9N in reply to Plastrontom, 08-22-2006 16:10:28  
Put some paint stripper on the area were the ser# should be then rinse it off. You shoule be able to read it.

Sean (TX)

'41 9N79052



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old 9

08-22-2006 17:26:02




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 Re: Help to identify my 9N in reply to Plastrontom, 08-22-2006 16:10:28  
Sounds like a 39 , the starter switch and rim size say 39 I am no expert but would bet the rent.( one months worth only) joe



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D Thomas

08-22-2006 17:24:45




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 Re: Help to identify my 9N in reply to Plastrontom, 08-22-2006 16:10:28  
Go to this site---->Link
and>Link click on the identify your tractor tab. Hope this helps ya out.



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Dell (WA)

08-22-2006 16:48:57




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 Re: Help to identify my 9N in reply to Plastrontom, 08-22-2006 16:10:28  
Plastrontom..... ....you write..... "There is a small tag, about 1 1/4 " long screwed to the block, where the starter mounts that is embossed "123"..... .bettcha look closely, that tag only looks like it is screwed on, it is CAST as part of the engine block mold as a quality control marker. Has 'nuttin' to do with engine serial number. Engine s/n is weakly hand-stamped and can be a bugger to decypher under all that pattina of rust.

What you need to do is to buy your own personal copy of Peterson & Beemer "Originality Guide" to the Ford N-Series of tractors. It has just recently been republished. ISBN 0-7603-0289-8 Enny bookstore can order it by the ISBN number. Copy it and take it into town bookstore and ask for it..... ....Dell, the NON-AUTHORITY of early 9N's

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Jim.UT

08-22-2006 19:30:58




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 Re: Help to identify my 9N in reply to Dell (WA), 08-22-2006 16:48:57  
I just got my copy of that book off ebay. Sold as used, but it doesn't look like anyone ever cracked the cover. Pretty nice book for $12!

I thumbed through the photos then started to read cover to cover. There are some parts and accessories pictured in that book that I've never seen pictured anywhere else and have certainly never seen with my own eye. I'm happy with the book.



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