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realtech

08-28-2006 18:17:54

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On my '50 model 8N I am tryin to get the sleeves out. I am thinkin they are steel, but not sure. I have tried to drive them from underneath with no results. I have taken a propane torch and tried to heat one and then drive it.....no results. I think I saw one place where Zane said to use a sharpened screwdriver to peel it. Would that mean drivin it down between the sleeve and block, or tryin to knock the sleeve in towards the middle away from the block? I aint never done this before and am learning about it. I like all the info you guys post here. It is very inspiring to someone who is tryin to do somethin for hisself. I am hopin to do this without havin to take it all the way down and goin to a machine shop. Thanks for all the help guys.

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ron,ar

08-28-2006 21:11:04

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what works for me.. in reply to realtech, 08-28-2006 18:17:54

I have removed several using the same method Bob uses, but it is nerveracking. I just start my bead at the bottom and run it straight up the sleeve. I don"t try to get any penetration, the opposite in fact, you want to "draw" the sleeve tighter (smaller) from the inside of the bore. It works for me. A few years ago I sold a complete flathead ford sleeve remmover/installer set that I had gotton from a Ford dealership going out of business. I wish I had kept it as it was genuine Fomoco where as the one I have is not. I just use it to install the sleeves, I use the crackerbox welder to remove them. Worst case is when some has JB welded them in place:^(

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Sean (TX)

08-28-2006 19:01:10

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Re: it aint werkin in reply to realtech, 08-28-2006 18:17:54

One on ebay for 50 bucks plus shipping. Freeze the new sleeves before installing them...Im no expert at it. I would take it to a machine shop. Having the crank ground?

CYLINDER SLEEVE REMOVAL AND INSTALLATION TOOL

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Bob

08-28-2006 18:52:18

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Re: it aint werkin in reply to realtech, 08-28-2006 18:17:54

Either get a sleeve puller, or take it to a machine shop, where THEY are responsible if they break the block, before you find yourself looking for a replacement block.

And, by the way, heating the inside component of a "press-fit" setup is NOT the way to get it to come apart!

I simply weld a couple of beads from bottom to top, on the inner wall of the sleeves, allow them to cool to ambient, and they all but fall out.

However, that procedure is NOT necessarily for the faint of heart or the inexperienced, as too much welding heat may burn through the sleeve, and damage the wall of the parent bore.

For a one-time deal, of replacing the sleeves in a single block, you really can't afford to mess with it yourself, or buy a sleeve puller, for what a reasonable machine shop will likely charge you.

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K.LaRue-VA

08-28-2006 20:05:05

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Re: it aint werkin in reply to Bob, 08-28-2006 18:52:18

Bob hit the nail. If you dont have the proper tools or are uncomfortable with the procedure, this is an area where it is worth taking it to an engine shop and paying to have it done right.

What is easy for one person, does not necessarily fall within the talents of another. I tried to warn my boss when he was going to rebuild his boat motor. He read that is was not complicated and figured he could do it himself. He IS an engineer after all. I have successfully rebuilt ford and chevy V8 engines, and there are a LOT of minor, repetitive things that just HAVE to be done right. I knew he was not meticulous enough, and of-course it spun several bearings on the first run. Now he gets to do it all over again. He ended up buying a rebuilt engine from somebody like Jasper....Lesson Learned, the hard way.

Only you know if this is within your capabilities or finances if you mess it up.

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