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ron,ar

09-09-2006 18:58:10




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How long does the average N series lift stay up after shutting off the engine with an implement on the lift? I know, no two are exactly the same but I read posts that infer that you can't go across the garden without chains or the lift will drop. Mine generally stays up at least partailly. for 30 minutes. If the tractor is not really hot it will take almost an hour to drift down. I want to change my fluid but don't want to create a problem if everything is working good. I have no idea when the fluid was changed.

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blitz

09-10-2006 04:47:31




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 Re: lift stays up ? in reply to ron,ar, 09-09-2006 18:58:10  
mine was doing the same thing and changing the oil helped for a little while, but, I finally had to remove the top cover and drop the pump and remove all the crud that was in there (and there was a LOT of gunk in there!) new fluid and all is well!!



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Dell (WA)

09-10-2006 00:27:07




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 Re: lift stays up ? in reply to ron,ar, 09-09-2006 18:58:10  
Ron..... ..you write..... "stays up at least partailly. for 30 minutes. If the tractor is not really hot it will take almost an hour to drift down"..... ..It should be intuitively obvious HOT-OIL is thiner and leaks faster than thicker COLD-OIL.

30-min leakdown is almost "braggin' rights"; altho there are reports of 8-hr leakdowns for rebuilt hydraulics.

Change yer oil, won't hurt 'nuttin'. Ford/New Holland recommends spec: M2C-134D hydro-tranny oil. Some claim that this is too thin for old leaky hydraulic systems. You can also use the 1939 recommended 90wt mineral gear oil (iff'n you can find it) Modern GL-1 is close approximation. do NOT use modern multi-wt GL-4 or GL-5 as they have "additives" that are perported to be "un-friendly" to yellow metal.

3-drains and 1-fill'em-up by the tranny shifter. Drain the square diffy plug first as it peees with better accuracy into yer 10-gal pan. Then drain the 3" tranny plug. Finally drain the 3" hydro-pump plug. Fill with 5-gal of hydro-tranny oil. DO NOT OVERFILL as the oil will splash out yer axle trumpet seals and greese yer brakes. Not good.

Correct hydro-tranny oil level is best set by pulling the 6'oclock (bottom) bolt of the 6" round dipstick plate behind yer right heel and lettin' any OVERFILL drain/dribble down the side of yer tranny housing. Now check yer dipstick level, that is the correct level, not the engraved mark. Understand?..... ...Dell

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ron,ar

09-10-2006 09:44:11




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 morning Dell in reply to Dell (WA), 09-10-2006 00:27:07  
Yep, me do understand, I just wondered why some folks, espesially on an 8N, seem to need chains all the time. If my lift wouldn"t stay up with the PTO disengaged, long enough to drive to the barn or across the yard I would be finding out why.



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souNdguy

09-09-2006 21:32:55




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 Re: lift stays up ? in reply to ron,ar, 09-09-2006 18:58:10  
If it needs changing.. change it.. no lift has even been hurt by adding clean oil.

soundguy



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K.LaRue-VA

09-09-2006 21:08:36




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 Re: lift stays up ? in reply to ron,ar, 09-09-2006 18:58:10  
Some lifts will stay up almost indefinitely, if the piston has been recently rebuilt.

The first rule when you buy a (new to you) N-Series tractor, is to change all the fluids. Now, if the seller tells me he just did that I would pull the dip stick and see what it looks like and if it looks good maybe let it go until the next service interval. If you have a tractor that has set for a few weeks, any water that has gotten into the system will be at the bottom of the sump (oil floats on water). So you can loosten each drain plug and carefully drain off what is at the bottom. I got almost a pint of water out of one of my tractors one time doing this.

kl

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Sean (TX)

09-09-2006 20:05:06




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 Re: lift stays up ? in reply to ron,ar, 09-09-2006 18:58:10  
The FO-4 says to change every year or 600 hours of operation. Does it look clean? Check it after driving it around a bit. If there is any water in there that will mix it with the oil and you dip stick will have milky oil on it. If its milky I would change it. Mine was milky and I changed it. Mine stays up about 30 minutes too.



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