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Randy Dunster

09-12-2006 08:15:31




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I recently purchased a restored 1951 8N. I am interested in purchasing a bushhog to use with it. I would like to purchase a medium duty bushhog and would like information on the tractors ability to handle a 48" vs a 60".




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guest

09-13-2006 04:49:57




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 Re: 8N Bushhogging in reply to Randy Dunster, 09-12-2006 08:15:31  
I got a 4' hog for my 9N from sweeetstractors
shipped to NEPA (shear pin, stump jumper) It
is holding up well. No strain on the N, so I would
go for a 5' if I had to do over, because of
wheel spacing.
My wife cuts the fields, and complaints of hard
turning, either too slow or to fast, metal seat
caused me to buy a $3000 18 hp Jinma to end the
complaints. Best purchase I made - the 48" hog is
a good match for the 18 hp commie tractor.
George

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davpal

09-12-2006 22:17:20




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 Re: 8N Bushhogging in reply to Randy Dunster, 09-12-2006 08:15:31  
Sounds pretty overwhelming Randy. Get the 5 footer. I have a john deere 5 footer on my 9n and it is just perfect. John Deere makes a first rate brush hog. They also have a very nice adjustable friction clutch on them that is very handy to adjust your pto shaft. It actually takes the place of a sheer pin and will slip instead of breaking when you hit a rock or stump. Good luck.



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Empennage

09-12-2006 17:41:05




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 Re: 8N Bushhogging in reply to Randy Dunster, 09-12-2006 08:15:31  
I have a 5 ft and love it. Its great getting close to the fence line and isn't too big to maneuver and pick up. I like the single wheel in the back too.



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bdunegan

09-12-2006 17:53:19




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 Re: 8N Bushhogging in reply to Empennage, 09-12-2006 17:41:05  
had a 6ft that was extremely heavy. way too much load for my 8n. traded it for a 5ft woods, and it is awesome. mows just like a lawn mower, and i can edge a fence or anything else with it, and handle it so much easier.



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CWG

09-12-2006 17:12:19




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 Re: 8N Bushhogging in reply to Randy Dunster, 09-12-2006 08:15:31  
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What they said. Cant stress ENOUGH to get the overrun thing.
Take some time to get used to the tractor.
IF the stuff is tall/thick adjust the 5 footer higher, in the back- keep the front higher it will cut some hellashush brush. I use mine both for brush clearing and mowing. Lower the rear, sharpen the blades and it does a great job on foot tall grass.
Learn how to tweak the linkage. Pay attention. An old tractor can kill you quick.
I've had a two year old tractor and my 48, I'm hooked on the older one.

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Randy Dunster

09-13-2006 04:53:46




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 Re: 8N Bushhogging in reply to CWG, 09-12-2006 17:12:19  
If the tractor already has a new slip clutch PTO installed, do you still need a ORC?



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Jerry/MT

09-12-2006 14:09:24




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 Re: 8N Bushhogging in reply to Randy Dunster, 09-12-2006 08:15:31  
Just watch the weight of the rotary cutter. Some of the "medium duty" mowers weigh well over 700 lbs and that can affect the steering when you pick up the mower. If you get one that is too heavy, you may have to ballast the front end to keep it down. The other reason to watch the weight is because these tractors have mechanically actuated brakes that are marginal at best.Trying to stop a heavier machine/mower combination just makes the situation worse. Don't forget to also get a ORC to connect between the pto and the cutter. You have a transmission driven pto which allows the inertia of the mower blade/stumpjumper/drive line combination to continue to drive the rear wheels even when the main clutch is disconnected. The ORC prevents this by only transmitting torque from the tractor to the implement and not vice versa.

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Ultradog MN

09-12-2006 10:33:39




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 Re: 8N Bushhogging in reply to Randy Dunster, 09-12-2006 08:15:31  
Bush Hog is a brand name.
Like John Deere, Ford or Chevrolet.
Lots of companies manufacture rotary or brush mowers. They are not Bush Hogs.
Bush Hogs are simply the best mowers out there.
I used a cheesy off brand brush mower for years but now I have a Real McCoy, sure nuff Bush Hog.
I put my flame proof asbestos suit on before started this rant.
So flame away.
Grin,
Jerry

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Dave in OH

09-12-2006 10:20:18




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 Re: 8N Bushhogging in reply to Randy Dunster, 09-12-2006 08:15:31  
I got a 5 footer because anything the tractor will pass, so will the mower. No need to worry about hitting trees and stuff.



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JoePilot

09-12-2006 09:52:48




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 Re: 8N Bushhogging in reply to Randy Dunster, 09-12-2006 08:15:31  
One other reason to NOT get a 48" hog: The back of the tractor is about 60" wide. If your mower is narrower, it is really hard to mow next to a fence or tree. So, 4 ft. is too narrow. 6 ft. is a bit of a grunt for the tractor. 5 ft. is jussst right!

Joe



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8N'r

09-12-2006 08:33:12




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 Re: 8N Bushhogging in reply to Randy Dunster, 09-12-2006 08:15:31  
Randy---if this is not your first experience with a tractor forgive the following:
The 5' can be handled easily by your 8N--

For starters: Become familiar with driving your tractor, than go to the "Articles" section under "Research and Info" on the left side of this websits homepage and read "Choosing, Mounting, and Using a Bush Hog" paying VERY close attention to what you read about "Limiter Chains", "ORC's", and "swaybars". Third, go to the archives section of this website and type in separately ---Limiter Chains, ORC, and Swaybars---that should keep you busy reading about "Must Know" things BEFORE you try bush hoggin. After that, come on back and the experts on this site can offer you good suggestions and advice on anything you need to have cleared up---good luck and safe tractoring---Tim (WI)

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Ken S.

09-12-2006 08:32:44




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 Re: 8N Bushhogging in reply to Randy Dunster, 09-12-2006 08:15:31  
Randy, 5' is considered the "standard" size for an N. some use 4' it's a waste of time IMHO. Some even run 6' but they make the front very light and are more suited to an 800 or 1000 series.



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Dell (WA)

09-12-2006 08:31:43




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 Re: 8N Bushhogging in reply to Randy Dunster, 09-12-2006 08:15:31  
Randy..... ..gitta five-footer and an ORC (OverRunning Coupler) good combination. Don't mucka'round with 4-footer. Nuebies gitt confused 'cuz brushhog specs say 40hp. That is the maximum the gearbox is rated for. Your 26hp 8N handles 5-footers just fine. Check yer PTO shaft, it could be eather original 1-1/8 or modern replacement 1-3/8. The ORC comes as eather 1-1/8 or 1-3/8 female INPUT and has a 1-3/8 male OUTPUT to match the 1-3/8 brushhog female snap-coupler input. You may need to shorten BOTH parts of the sliding PTO driveshaft. They are made to be cut shorter..... ....Dell

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Randy Dunster

09-13-2006 04:58:55




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 Re: 8N Bushhogging in reply to Dell (WA), 09-12-2006 08:31:43  
If the tractor has already had a new slip clutch PTO installed, would I still need the ORC?



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Dell (WA)

09-13-2006 06:23:11




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 Re: 8N Bushhogging in reply to Randy Dunster, 09-13-2006 04:58:55  
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Randy..... ...sometimes names can be confusing. Iff'n yer "slip clutch" don't look like this PTO OverRunning Coupler, then YES you still need the 1-way ratcheting ORC otherwize the brushhog swinging blades momentum will backdrive thru yer tranny when you clutch to slowdown and push yer tractor into the corner of the barn, telephonepole, guywire, fencepost, creekbank, irrigation canal, wifes car (don't ask). $60 (cheap)

Slip-clutches usually are on the brushhog to protect the brushhog gearbox. They act as "sheer-pin". Usually brushhogs are protected by a sheer-pin 'cuz they are cheaper. (grade-2 bolt)..... ...Dell

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TCARLSON40

09-12-2006 08:20:13




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 Re: 8N Bushhogging in reply to Randy Dunster, 09-12-2006 08:15:31  
I use a 5 ft bushhog on my 2N with no problems - use it mostly on overgrown weeds but also does a good job leveling the multiflora rose bushes and removing invading sumac.



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