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rgarv

10-01-2006 21:29:41




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Thinking of having the engine rebuilt by someone other than me. Any ideas of what this might cost. Found alot of oil in rad after I herd a wierd noise and old 9n quit running.




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TheOldHokie

10-02-2006 05:42:43




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 Re: engine rebuild in reply to rgarv, 10-01-2006 21:29:41  
I've given up paying local shops to rebuild motors - tractor or otherwise. If I'm not going to do it myself I buy commercially "remanufactured" units. They are usually less expensive than paying a shop.

If you're lucky enough to have a RELIABLE one man shop in your area you might get it done a bit cheaper than a commercial exchange engine but be sure you're getting the same new parts installed and the same level of work (cleaning, machining, etc) performed.

And Stumpalump's recent report here of a rebuild gone South is an example of the potential for problems. Most commercially remanufactured engines come with at least a minimum written warranty. I've only had to avail myself of that warranty once and that particular company provided a replacement motor and several hundred dollars cash to cover MY labor for the R&R of the unit.

YMMV,

TOH

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Bruce (VA)

10-02-2006 05:21:09




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 Re: engine rebuild in reply to rgarv, 10-01-2006 21:29:41  
I think I'd find out what the problem is before I started looking to fix it. The very first thing you need to do is get it turning over w/ the starter & listen for strange noises & check the oil pressure. Then a compression check. But, to answer your question, the complete kit is about $450. Pulling the engine yourself saves money, but just pulling it down, tanking it & putting it back together will run $600-800, excluding shop work (as in turning the crank) here in VA.

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JohnMD

10-02-2006 04:37:39




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 Re: engine rebuild in reply to rgarv, 10-01-2006 21:29:41  
A complete rebuild can cost anywhere from $1500 to $3000. The problem is finding someone that knows what they are doing. Completely rebuilt engines are available for about $2000 plus core cost from on line dealers. According to where you are there are several members of this board that may rebuild your engine for you.



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Bob

10-01-2006 23:55:45




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 Re: engine rebuild in reply to rgarv, 10-01-2006 21:29:41  
How was the engine performing before it quit... power, oil pressure, oil consumption? Did it smoke at idle? When working hard?


With an "N", almost certainly "oil" in the radiator is NOT actually leaked crankcase oil, since there's no way for that to happen, except POSSIBLY an (uncommon) oil gallery-to-water jacket crack, but rather, combustion products that have leaked over a long time past the head gasket, and accumulated in the cooling system.

So, it is quite possible the "oil" in the radiator is totally unrelated to the engine stalling, and the noise you heard. You really need to get a good diagnosis of why it quit, before being certain an overhaul is needed.

A film of "oil" in the radiator is certainly NOT desirable, however, having coolant in the crankcase is 1000% WORSE, and will eventually cause the bearings to fail. A SERIOUS head gasket leak will allow water (coolant) to get into the crankcase oil, as well as "combustion products" to get into the radiator.

Have you loosened the engine oil drain plug a little, to see what comes out... any coolant that has leaked into the crankcase will settle to the bottom, and drain out FIRST, before the oil.

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rgarv

10-08-2006 14:51:36




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 Re: engine rebuild in reply to Bob, 10-01-2006 23:55:45  
thanks to all that replied. sorry it took so long for me to get back with you. I did check the crankcase for oil non found thank GOD. I believ I'll still need to pull head and replace piston rings have alot of blow by causing alot of exhaust to come from crankcase vent????? ?? I guess . Thanks again. I'll let you know how things turn out.



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