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52n safety aler

10-06-2006 14:33:58

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if you use a scoop bucket on the back of your n, in reverse beware of the rope used to release the triger the other day i lost a glove and almost two fingers when reaching for the rope it got caught on the edge of the hole of the sleve of the pto shaft wraped around it and snaped like a gun going off SO BE SURE WHERE THE REST OF ROPE IS WHEN YOU GRAB IT!

P.S. I HAD MY END ATTACHED TO THE UPPER CONTROL ARM OF THE 3PT HITCH IT SNAPED THAT END AND THE END ATTACHED TO THE BUCKET TRIGER

ANY OTHER SAFETY THINGS BESIDES ROLLOVER PLEASE LETS POST IT I DONT WISH TO LOOSE ANY BODY PARTS IF POSSIBLE

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Tom New Jersey

10-07-2006 17:15:17

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Re: SAFETY FLASH in reply to 52n safety alert, 10-06-2006 14:33:58

I put my orc on the brush hog..... .

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Crem

10-08-2006 09:27:51

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Re: SAFETY FLASH in reply to Tom New Jersey, 10-07-2006 17:15:17

Tom, that sounds like a good idea. How did you modify the ORC to fit on your mower, or do they make one for that?

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Phil (NJ,AZ,SASK)

10-06-2006 14:50:22

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Re: SAFETY FLASH in reply to 52n safety alert, 10-06-2006 14:33:58

52N, The PTO shaft normally has a "CAP" cover that screws in place to prevent such accidents. That CAP must be installed whenever you are not using the PTO or....

JMHO

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Paul Leske

10-06-2006 16:14:03

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Re: SAFETY FLASH in reply to Phil (NJ,AZ,SASK), 10-06-2006 14:50:22

That may be so but that cover wont work when you have an ORC installed.

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Crem

10-06-2006 21:57:53

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Re: SAFETY FLASH in reply to Paul Leske, 10-06-2006 16:14:03

Here is a picture with the end cap screwed on.

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Hobo,NC

10-07-2006 15:40:12

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Re: SAFETY FLASH in reply to Crem, 10-06-2006 21:57:53

Very nice werk!!

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Crem

10-06-2006 21:54:57

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Re: SAFETY FLASH in reply to Paul Leske, 10-06-2006 16:14:03

Here is a safety cover that I built about 5 years ago for my Ferguson tractor with the ORC. It has worked out very well and I always put the end cap on when the PTO is not in use. I have sold a few over the years. It is handy because it is strong enough that you can even stand on it. You can let the top link hang down and it will not be rubbing on the ORC.

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Crem

10-06-2006 22:07:34

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Re: SAFETY FLASH in reply to Crem, 10-06-2006 21:54:57

Here is a close up of the cover. I think that it is well worth the time that it takes to make one of these if you leave your ORC attached. I used 4" pipe, but have found that 4" rigid conduit gives a little more internal clearance and is available as scrap from an electrical shop. The end cap is made from 2" threaded pipe as I could not match the original cap threads. It is not a five minute job though as everything has to be made right to fit properly.

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Joe (IN)

10-06-2006 21:59:06

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Re: SAFETY FLASH in reply to Crem, 10-06-2006 21:54:57

That's a nice piece! I like it. Have you got any ready made to sell? Only thing I'd have done a bit different is put some sort of a hole or plug in the top so I could get the grease gun in to the ORC zerk. Well done!

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Crem

10-07-2006 14:03:08

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Re: SAFETY FLASH in reply to Joe (IN), 10-06-2006 21:59:06

Joe, I was going to drill a hole to be able to grease it, but then I thought that someone would stick their finger in there. Maybe that would be ok if a plug was screwed in to close the hole. It is easy to remove though, only four bolts. It doesn't work out with the plow but the ORC has to be removed anyway for that to provide clearance. I only have one on hand and that is my pattern for dimensions. I could make some more if needed. I have a jig that I use to weld the ears on.

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Pooh Bear

10-06-2006 18:12:27

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Re: SAFETY FLASH in reply to Paul Leske, 10-06-2006 16:14:03

I recently had to use my scoop backwards.
I solved the problem completely.
I took a T post and secured it to the rear of the scoop
(actually the front but it's turned around).
I layed the T post so that it rested on top of the
axle beside the seat. Then tied my rope to the trip
lever and to the T post with a little slack in it.

Then all I had to do was go get a scoop full,
bring it to where I wanted to dump it,
and pull up on the T post to trip the bucket.
It couldn't get any easier than that.

I too had a problem once when the PTO/ORC caught
the trip cord and yanked it out of my lap.
I had most of the cord wound up and laying across
my leg. If it had been around my hand it would have
jerked me off the seat backwards.

I'm working on a better method than using a cable.

Pooh Bear

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Bob D in Southern In

10-07-2006 07:16:22

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Re: SAFETY FLASH in reply to Pooh Bear, 10-06-2006 18:12:27

Pooh Bear could you post a picture of how you attached the post.
Or if you want you could send me an e-mail with the picture.
Thanks in advance.

Bob D in southern Indiana.

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Pooh Bear

10-07-2006 08:22:33

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Re: SAFETY FLASH in reply to Bob D in Southern In, 10-07-2006 07:16:22

I already took it all apart.
I finished all my backwards scooping.
Got the pile down to where I scoop forward now.

My dirt scoop is a J Bar brand.
The top of it is square, not angled like the TSC scoops.
The thing is shaped like a big iron box.
I use a length of old clothes line cable as a trip rope.
It's just steel cable with a plastic cover on it.

I layed a T post across the scoop and left axle.
I tied the cable thru the hole in the trip lever.
Brought it up and wrapped it around the T post
several times, then took the rest of it back and
wrapped it around the frame of the dirt scoop and
the T post to hold it place.
Just your basic redneck engineering stuff.

When I do my permanent improvements I will post pictures.

Pooh Bear

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Mike S

10-06-2006 18:05:50

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Re: SAFETY FLASH in reply to Paul Leske, 10-06-2006 16:14:03

You can get a PTO shield that covers both the shaft and the ORC that will help a bit with what he described. Other choice is to get one of those newer ORCs that don't require that driven pin but use a ball indent to hold them on. So it is very easy to remove when you don't need it.

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gahorN

10-06-2006 19:07:05

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Re: SAFETY FLASH in reply to Mike S, 10-06-2006 18:05:50

WHERE....is a good source for a cover that'll fit a ORC.?

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souNdguy

10-06-2006 21:13:48

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Re: SAFETY FLASH in reply to gahorN, 10-06-2006 19:07:05

Got an arc welder, some 3" or 4" metal pip scrap, and some 1/4" flat stock?

Soundguy

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K.LaRue-VA

10-06-2006 19:05:40

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Re: SAFETY FLASH in reply to Mike S, 10-06-2006 18:05:50

When I got my ORC, the roll-pin was such a pain to install, my first mission was to find a way to make it easier to install and uninstall the ORC. I did away with the roll-pin in favor of a hardened steel pin that is a slip-fit through the holes in the PTO and the ORC. I have two grease fittings on opposite sides of the ORC that capture the pin and keep it in place. When I want to remove the ORC all I have to do is remove one grease fitting and rotate the PTO until the opening is pointed down. Gravity removes the pin and the ORC slips right off.

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