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anchises

10-11-2006 12:45:14




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anyone know the maximum safe grade the 8n will climb?
this would be without any implements, but would be towing a light wagon.
thanks




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Bob

10-11-2006 19:06:03




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 Re: slope in reply to anchises, 10-11-2006 12:45:14  
"Safe slope" for an "N" is pretty tough to define!

Even on a gentle slope, if it pops out of gear, especially common from "2ND", you will have a very high "pucker factor", as you scoot backwards down the hill, STANDING on the "N"'s WONDERFUL brakes, trying to get it under control.

And, on a severe slope, hitting a hole, or whatever, and causing the governor to jerk the throttle "open" can lift the front wheels off of the ground.

If the degree of slope gives you any thoughts about it's safety, it's probably best to heed those thoughts!

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anchises

10-12-2006 05:41:17




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 Re: slope in reply to Bob, 10-11-2006 19:06:03  
before posting my question, i was a little leery about going up this hill.
i can picture myself standing on the brakes, or rolling over.
that is too much excitement for me.
why take a chance?
you convinced me to find an alternative means.



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LeeMO

10-11-2006 14:49:21




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 Re: slope in reply to anchises, 10-11-2006 12:45:14  
When you find yourself steering with the rear brakes 'cause the front wheels are up about eye level you know you've exceeded the max. Found myself in that position with a 460 Ford Police Interceptor engine on my boom pole a few weeks ago. Not recomended !! The good news is my drawers washed up OK.



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Russ SoCal

10-11-2006 15:06:27




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 Re: slope in reply to LeeMO, 10-11-2006 14:49:21  
See there, Lee? If'n ya had that big ol' Ford 460 up front and the little flathead on the boompole.....
Russ



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lonestarjeff

10-11-2006 13:59:04




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 Re: slope in reply to anchises, 10-11-2006 12:45:14  
In addition to Russ' comments, keep in mind your type of hitch & trailer load & tongue weight makes a BIG difference to the grade you can safely climb.

The hitch pictured below(a Ferguson design)is the safest of the designs I've seen. It puts the tongue pivot point right up under the diffy, which greatly reduces the "wheely" effect from the trailer & tongue load.

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Probably the most important factor is your good judgement.

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Russ SoCal

10-11-2006 13:14:03




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 Re: slope in reply to anchises, 10-11-2006 12:45:14  
anchises,
IN THEORY, based on an approximate longitudinal center of gravity and a "generally acccepted" vertical CG, the N should be able to climb a 40 degree slope.
IN FACT, I have a slope up from my back gate of about 20 degrees (holding a protractor out at arms length and guessing) and find myself leaning forward climbing it. So, my answer would be no more than 20 degrees.
Russ



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Rip Van Winkle

10-12-2006 05:48:46




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 Re: slope in reply to Russ SoCal, 10-11-2006 13:14:03  
If I find my self in a place where I get uncomfortable going up hill I apply slight pressure to the brakes. The force from the rear wheels will be trying to push the front down instead of lifting the front. The brake drums are attached to the wheels, the brake shoes to the frame so the brakeing action will keep the front on the ground. Just the opposit takes place if you back down a slope so be very carefull when backing up.
Rip

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