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Realtech

10-18-2006 13:57:32

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Well, I began to install my .090 sleeves in my 8N today. I cooled them down in freezer, added a coat of Loctite , well the Permatex equivilent, and started with cyl.# 2. It tapped in okay, then cyl.# 3, it went just fine. Then I began with #1. It tapped down pretty good until about one and a half inches left to go. It got real tight but I kept it going with a good bit of force from a sledge hammer. Then with about a half of an inch left to go....a two inch piece of the sleeve breaks off the top. I have been beating on the sleeve for half an hour trying to get it to budge, but no results. It seems it has set in for the winter. I just dont know what to do now. Any good suggestions? The engine is still attached to the tranny as the sleeves and rings was all I needed to do to get it going again. I am at a loss now. Any good info or suggestions appreciated. Thanks in advance.

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Realtech

10-19-2006 17:03:35

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Re: Now what can I do? in reply to Realtech, 10-18-2006 13:57:32

Thanks for the input guys. I will try to locate someone with a portable welder to run the beads. I have a new sleeve on order so I hope to try to get that all accomplished before too long. I just get to do it in my spare time. But now with Daylight Savings to be ending, it will make it more difficult as I ususally have to work to later in afternoon. But we will "git-r-done". I will post back with results. Thanks again.

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TheOldHokie

10-19-2006 05:10:27

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Re: Now what can I do? in reply to Realtech, 10-18-2006 13:57:32

Some of the Loctite brand retaining compounds require heating the assembly to facilitate disassembly. Check the data sheet for the particular product you used.

I suspect your problem arose because your assembly rate was too slow. These anaerobic compounds can work pretty fast. The "really good" Loctite branded product (can't recall the product #) will lock up in a matter of 10-20 seconds and requires substantial heating to disassemble. The data sheet cautions that high press rates are required and recommends something like 800F for disassembly IIRC.

HTH and Good Luck,

TOH

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Dell (WA)

10-18-2006 15:55:52

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Re: Now what can I do? in reply to Realtech, 10-18-2006 13:57:32

Realtech..... ...buy new sleeves and use DRY-ICE chips (yellow pages). ($10, cheap)

You were on the "right-track" but unfortunately the resisdual heat of the block will expand the freezered cold sleeve before you gitter set all the way down.

Just make a "spool outta 2-pieces of jig-sawed wood and 12" of readythread rod and 4-nuts. Wood doesn't haffta be very accurate or tight. Just fill the cavity with -100F dry-ice chips and insert the shrunken sleeve. Remove the nuts and spool end and re-use the dry-ice chips for the next sleeve. Simple, eh?

To remove yer castiron sleeve, run 3-beads of arc-weld the lenght of the sleeve to shrink the sleeve. Don't ARC thru the sleeve wall. Cover yer crankshaft bearings with rag. Simple, eh?..... ...Dell

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CENTAUR

10-18-2006 15:55:33

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Re: Now what can I do? in reply to Realtech, 10-18-2006 13:57:32

I have never replaced a sleeve in anything ever.If you have a sleeve puller it will have a round plate to pull it out.I would fill it with dry ice & try that.

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