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Barry in Mi

10-23-2006 12:43:18




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Need to finish the shop before this winter. I'm curious --what types of shop lights do you use in your shop? Any suggestions? Thanks, Barry




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Peter, Covington, LA

10-24-2006 19:35:14




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 Some comparisons in reply to Barry in Mi, 10-23-2006 12:43:18  
Incandescent bulbs are out - too much juice and not enought light.

Fluorescents are good. They have a high light-to-power ratio, and are reliable except in very cold weather. Use the Hight Output 8-foot tubes for a better ratio than the 4 foot. Choose between Cool White and Daylight color. Your choice.

If your shop is huge, or you want the lights up real high, you can use high-pressure lights. They have a much higher light-to-watt ratio, but the fixtures are expensive up front.

There are 3 kinds. Mercury Vapor is the oldest. Commonly used for street lighting. Has a blue-white light output. However, they are dangerous!! They put out a very hight Ultra-Violet content. This can burn your skin, burn your retinas, and I wouldn't recommend them.

Second type is Sodium Vapor. Higher light output ratio than Mercury. Drawback - orange light. Makes all colors look different.

The BEST would be Metal Halide. They have the highest light-to-power ratio, and give brilliant white light.

But, again, I'd stick to fluorescent unless you're lighting a WalMart or Sam's.

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TheOldHokie

10-24-2006 06:06:25




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 Re: OT shop lights in reply to Barry in Mi, 10-23-2006 12:43:18  
Barry,

I just finished installing lights in two 25x40 foot bays in the new Garaj Mahal. I hung two 8ft two lamp HO flourescents in the back of each bay. They are about 13ft off the floor (4th purlin from the sidewall), spaced 3ft apart, and make plenty of light.


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As soon as I get the overhead doors hung and I know exactly where the backhangs go I'll add a second row up front. That's probably a bit of overkill but these old eyes don't work well in dim conditions. I got these fixtures from Grainger (#4LB83, $61.85 ea). They are nice sturdy premium industrial fixtures with a reflector and a cold weather (0F) ballast so they fire right up even in the winter. If you go flourescent be sure and get the HO's - way more lumens/lamp.

HTH,

TOH

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guest

10-24-2006 04:25:17




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 Re: OT shop lights in reply to Barry in Mi, 10-23-2006 12:43:18  
I used the 4' flouresents
but in the cold NEPA winters
If I turn them on in 0 degree
nites they don't fire up
and they burn out.
Go with street lites.

George



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dlplost

10-24-2006 00:37:17




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 Re: OT shop lights in reply to Barry in Mi, 10-23-2006 12:43:18  
Mercury Vapor, yup, Street lights, got 5 of them in there.
Garage is 32' x 56' 12' up to the bottom of the rafters.
Takes a while to light them op, but it's just like daylight once they're lit up.



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Stumpalump

10-23-2006 20:10:05




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 Re: OT shop lights in reply to Barry in Mi, 10-23-2006 12:43:18  
Cheap shop lights buzz and are noisy. The kind for offices are quiet.



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tjzaval

10-23-2006 19:21:06




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 Re: OT shop lights in reply to Barry in Mi, 10-23-2006 12:43:18  
Hay Guys
Really enjoy all your comments.
Trouble is I already have a full note book. (3 ring binder) with all you articles and help.
Is there any way I can save them to the hard drive?
I can"t seem to find the directions.
Enjoyed the 6/12 volt comments.
My 47 8N has a 12 volt conversion on it.
TZ



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Steve IA

10-24-2006 03:39:05




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 Re: OT shop lights in reply to tjzaval, 10-23-2006 19:21:06  
If you're using IE, right click on the page you want to save and select "add to favorites". If you're using FireFox, right click and select "Bookmark this page". You'll have to be online to retrieve them, but these pages will be there as long as Kim keeps up the site. Or You could copy a post (left mouse and move it to select part of article you want to copy then right click select copy)and paste it into a word processor, like MSWord or NOtepad. With all these options, you'll have to name the page when you save it so you can find what you're looking for later.
Try some practice pages and see what works for you.
Good luck.
Steve 8N 169302, NAA III443

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old 9

10-23-2006 18:04:15




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 Re: OT shop lights in reply to Barry in Mi, 10-23-2006 12:43:18  
Barry, Speaking with 30 plus years as an electrician, having seen all the "new" stuff come and go, With out question . Florescent/ T-8/ electronic ballast...
With this #1 they will light in cold (regular T-12 will not) #2 Less electricity used..(the HO's mentioned above are good , however use more power, lamps COST more,ballasts Cost more.)
Lots Of Luck joe



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Hobo,NC

10-23-2006 17:35:12




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 Re: OT shop lights in reply to Barry in Mi, 10-23-2006 12:43:18  
I use 8 foot high output florescent Ho’s, for the money and cost of operation kin not be beat. Best if installed no higher than 12 ft from the floor, higher than 12 ft and you will loose to much light. My end walls are 16 ft so I suspend them with chain. Also makes it easer to replace a bulb.



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JDrew

10-23-2006 17:18:05




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 Re: OT shop lights in reply to Barry in Mi, 10-23-2006 12:43:18  
I use standard 4' fluorescents for the "normal" lighting and have a number of halogens with pull-chains for spot-work areas. I also have a bunch of clamp-on incandescents and halogens for situation use. (Meynard's tends to have things on sale from time to time...)

My shop includes woodworking, oxy-acet cutting/welding/brazing, and shade-tree mechanix work so I need to be ready for anything.

J-

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VTXscooter

10-23-2006 16:44:04




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 Re: OT shop lights in reply to Barry in Mi, 10-23-2006 12:43:18  
If you live in a cold climate you will want to get T8 minimum. T12 for real cold dlimates.



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Chad OH

10-23-2006 15:47:33




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 Re: OT shop lights in reply to Barry in Mi, 10-23-2006 12:43:18  
Barry,
I also use high output flourescent lights in my 24 x 36 x 12 uninsulated pole barn.
3 48"ers across the length and one under my loft where the work bench is.
More than enough for what I"m doing.
Like butta.

Good luck,
Chad



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blitz

10-23-2006 15:04:42




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 Re: OT shop lights in reply to Barry in Mi, 10-23-2006 12:43:18  
I use 8 foot highoutput flurescent(sp??) in my garages... run them down the edges of a 1 car and on the edges and middle of a 2 car don't put them above where the car will park..... ... if you can get a car in your garage!!!



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JohnNoregon

10-23-2006 13:56:55




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 Re: OT shop lights in reply to Barry in Mi, 10-23-2006 12:43:18  
forgot to say you might have to check the archives if there is not a current topic on lighting
JohnNoregon



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JohnNoregon

10-23-2006 13:24:31




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 Re: OT shop lights in reply to Barry in Mi, 10-23-2006 12:43:18  
Hey Barry can't really give you any answer's but if you go to to addess below on the fourm you will find a wealth of info on what is best or what is worst HTH
JohnNoregon Link



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