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Ford 909 5 ft rotary cutter

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Paul Schultz

10-25-2006 16:00:32




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I am now the proud owner of the above implement. I bought a 1953 Golden Jubilee about 1-1/2 years ago and must admit I have never used the PTO.

So, tonight I'll be reading my manual regarding how to use the PTO. But, the cutter needs a PTO shaft to attach it to the tractor. What do I need to know when I go to purchase one of these. I'll likely go to the TSC that is about a 30 minute drive away from me. I've also seen them on ebay and suppose I could get one via this route.

Any and all recommendations would be appreciated.

BTW, I'm completely new to these implements but this one is built like a tank! They used a large off road fork lift to place it in the back of my pick-up truck. I'm hoping the loader on my Jubilee is up to the challenge and can handle lifting this from the truck (using a chain).

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Paul

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ron,ar

10-25-2006 19:08:01




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 Re: Ford 909 5 ft rotary cutter in reply to Paul Schultz, 10-25-2006 16:00:32  
One thing I have run into on older PTO shafts is that all the newer ones are somehow "metric", so matching up the other half may not be easy. Something does not quite look right about that slip clutch assembly either, may be just my old eyes tho/



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Dean

10-25-2006 17:56:27




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 Re: Ford 909 5 ft rotary cutter in reply to Paul Schultz, 10-25-2006 16:00:32  
Paul:

That looks like a good cutter, I wish I had one like it.

Old and Mungan have given you good advice about the PTO shaft and ORC.

One more bit of advice. Make sure that the slip clutch is not frozen by rust. It is not uncommon for this to happen if the clutch is tightened up so much that it never slips. When this happens you have no slip clutch/shear pin protection and can damage your tractor if you hit something hard.

It is good practice to loosen the slip clutch each spring and intentionally slip it so that it does not freeze.

Dean

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old

10-25-2006 16:43:24




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 Re: Ford 909 5 ft rotary cutter in reply to Paul Schultz, 10-25-2006 16:00:32  
FIRST thing to buy is an ORC then the shaft. Measure the hole on the piece you have then buy the correct size square piece to fit. There are a few differant ones. If it where here on my place I could probably walk out to my shop and pick up 2 or 3 of them. Your Jubilee doesn't have live PTO so you need an ORC or you will find that that brush hog will push you where you don't want to go and that could get you dead or some one else

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old

10-25-2006 17:13:50




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 Re: Ford 909 5 ft rotary cutter in reply to old, 10-25-2006 16:43:24  
Murnga has the right idea. Now if your picture showed the open end part of the PTO shaft I could probably give you more ideas but with out seeing what the end looks like I can only give you a educated guess. Most things use 1 of 3 or 4 differant type/sizes of shafts. My self I make a lot of my own shafts from blank stock but I also have the tools to do so.

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Paul Schultz

10-25-2006 17:24:28




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 Re: Ford 909 5 ft rotary cutter in reply to old, 10-25-2006 17:13:50  
old,

The open end shows the PTO shaft is a round tube (and rusted significantly). It appears it was hacked or rusted off since the end is jagged. It doesn't look anything like the shapes of the tube on the currently available PTO shafts on ebay or other web sites.

What length of PTO shaft should I be looking at to connect this rotary cutter to my Jubilee? 48"?

Paul.



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old

10-25-2006 17:35:56




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 Re: Ford 909 5 ft rotary cutter in reply to Paul Schultz, 10-25-2006 17:24:28  
Ok that tells me a little more. From what you just said you will need a whole new shaft from the U-joint forward. The insdie of that tube should have a square part in it that the slide shaft fits into. As far as how long I can't say for sure since diffant equipemtn use diffaerant lenghts of shaft. One way to figure out would be hook it up and measure how far it is from the PTO shaft on the tractor to the U-joint area on the cutter. Then raise it up and do it again. Then you need a shaft that is shrt enough that it will slide in and not hit but also long enough that it will extend but but fall out of its self. If you where closer to me I could build you one for a case of beer and a carton of smokes LOL

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old

10-25-2006 18:11:19




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 Re: Ford 909 5 ft rotary cutter in reply to Paul Schultz, 10-25-2006 17:45:47  
You might be able to do it that way. But you would have to match up the U-joints so both where the same size. I know if it was something made by NH they used an odd ball U-joint on there stuff and its very hard to match them up



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Paul Schultz

10-25-2006 16:51:43




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 Re: Ford 909 5 ft rotary cutter in reply to old, 10-25-2006 16:43:24  
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Thanks old,

An ORC was also on my shopping list. I was just looking at some PTO shafts on ebay and at the TSC site. They all have a smooth bore end for the implement. It appears the Ford implement needs a different mode of attachment from the picture. Any ideas on how to handle this? Any sources for cost effective PTO shaft options?

Paul.

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Taylor

10-26-2006 09:19:40




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 Re: Ford 909 5 ft rotary cutter in reply to Paul Schultz, 10-25-2006 16:51:43  
I am new to tractor stuff, but I am having a lot of fun with it. This site has really helped me along the way. My son-in-law has founed me a brush hog for my 48 8n. So now I need to ask, what in the world does ORC stand for.



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LeeMo

10-26-2006 09:31:53




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 Re: Ford 909 5 ft rotary cutter in reply to Taylor, 10-26-2006 09:19:40  
Over Ride Clutch. It's a part that goes on the PTO shaft at the tractor to allow heavy implements to freewheel when you disengage the clutch. Without one the spinning implement can push the tractor transmission causing the tractor to continue to move forward when you want to stop. Not a good thing if you're too near a pond or barn wall or your wifes new car.....



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murnga

10-25-2006 17:05:01




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 Re: Ford 909 5 ft rotary cutter in reply to Paul Schultz, 10-25-2006 16:51:43  
Remove the four bolts that bolts the rear yoke to the slip clutch and take in to a tractor dealer. They should be able to fab you a front half. This looks like an old Am made 14R series shaft and assy is probably obs.



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