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Rogar Lipe

10-27-2006 18:46:37

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Well I decided to hold off on a new carb for my 8n instead I bought a used carb at a tractor bone yard near here, the used carb was in worst shape than mine with rust and old crud that was caked inside of it, My buddy spent $56.00 on a rebuild kit and 2 hours cleaning and rebuilding it and now that it is on the tractor the tractor is still quitting !!, I should have just bought a new carb in the first place, I'll order a new one next week.

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georgia

10-28-2006 03:54:19

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Re: Tractor still quitting part2 in reply to Rogar Lipe, 10-27-2006 18:46:37

mine was doing the same thing and Im no mechanic by any means.But it was in my carb and after cussing a whole bunch and kept fiddeling with it,I finally got it where now it runs and starts without all that chokeing,stumbling and it dont quit when running it. And now I run Lucas in the gas tank every once in awhile to help keep everything cleaned out. Before it drove me nuts and I was ready to give the dang thing away.I ripped out the tank filter,the carb filter and installed a new bowel filter.
Question? What the heck do u need all those filters for to begin with?My other tractors dont have that many as that old Ford had.Just wondering?

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Jim West Tn

10-27-2006 21:44:37

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Re: Tractor still quitting part2 in reply to Rogar Lipe, 10-27-2006 18:46:37

Actually you should order two carbs, try them both, then post back, cause it in't your carb.
Jim

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Rogar Lipe

10-28-2006 06:54:47

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Re: Tractor still quitting part2 in reply to Jim West Tn, 10-27-2006 21:44:37

Well thanks Jim, That reply was a big help

"Buy two carbs"

Great

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Dell (WA)

10-27-2006 19:10:05

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Re: Tractor still quitting part2 in reply to Rogar Lipe, 10-27-2006 18:46:37

Rogar..... .thank you for getting back to us with yer report.

Your first post, we told you it aintchur carb, but you insisted.

Your 2nd post, we told you it aintchur carb, but you insisted, and we pointed you to an excellent carb rebuild article.

Your 3rd post, we told you it aintchur carb, but you insisted, and we asked you to perform some diagnostic tests so we can better help you resolve your problem. But you can't seem to grasp the concept that we might know something that can help you resolve your quiting problem.

Your 4th post, you now report that a different rebuilt carb didn't solve yer problem, you seem #ell bent on buying a new carb, even though 3-different times we've told you it aintchur carb.

What part of "IT AINTCHUR CARB" don't you understand?..... ...respectfully, Dell

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Bob Harvey

10-27-2006 20:33:59

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Re: Tractor still quitting part2 in reply to Dell (WA), 10-27-2006 19:10:05

Yo! Dell, ya fergot to interest the 'client' in electrics. Probly the problem he's havin'. HPH

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Rogar Lipe

10-27-2006 19:55:04

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Re: Tractor still quitting part2 in reply to Dell (WA), 10-27-2006 19:10:05

Please forgive me but I don't understand what you are saying and I don't have that brand Carburetor, My 8n has a Marvel Schebler Carburetor on it (I think that is how it is spelled) I don't have or never heard of a Aintchur brand carburetor, maybe they used them on earlier models? I have a 1949 8n. I do think I have a carburetor problem because it starts and runs fine then you need to choke it after it warms up to keep it running.

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Dell (WA)

10-27-2006 20:11:05

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Re: Tractor still quitting part2 in reply to Rogar Lipe, 10-27-2006 19:55:04

Rogar..... ..your problem aintchur Marvel/Schebler carburator. Its yer sparkies!!!

You write..... "you need to choke it after it warms up to keep it running"..... ..Heres the deal, when you "choke" yer engine, what are you doing? You are ENRICHING yer mixture, right? Well guess what? WEAK SPARKIES NEED RICH MIXTURE to keep sparklin'.

You report..... .."you need to choke it after it warms up to keep it running"..... ..Wannna guess what is also warming up and will cause WEAK SPARKIES? Its yer weaksister ignition switch. The internal contacts gitt gunked-up and heat-up and reduce the volts to yer ignition coil. Wannna guess what reduced volts to yer ignition coil is going to do to your SPARKIES????

Do I haffta tell you to replace yer weaksister ignition switch? $10 (cheap) You doubt? You can use a pre-made jumper wire with alligator clippies and jump yer 2-wire ignition switch where it connects to the terminal block on the backside of yer dashpanel underneath the ampmeter. (tip: follow the ignition switch wires)..... ..respectfully, Dell, yer self-appointed sparkie-meister

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Rogar Lipe

10-28-2006 06:52:14

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Re: Tractor still quitting part2 in reply to Dell (WA), 10-27-2006 20:11:05

Oh, Duh, now I see -

"aintchur" meaning "Ain't your carb"

Well that clears things up

Please tell me why you feel you need to talk to me as if I were a child or an idiot with words like "Aintchur", Or "Sparklin"

You do not know me sir and have no right to talk to me like that

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cargocult again

10-28-2006 07:30:13

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Re: Tractor still quitting part2 in reply to Rogar Lipe, 10-28-2006 06:52:14

Hey Rogar..that's just the way Dell posts. No big deal. BUT, he Knows Many Things and is very good about sharin' em with folks. Check da archives 4 dis point, which has come up MANY TIMES! (And don't bother tellin me I post improper English. I know this. Was corrupted by TXTin' stuffs 2 Filipinas. Saves characters, ya kno) Personally, I think Dell is a SAINT because he answers questions from IDIOTS who don't bother to check da archives, or read a couple posts down da page, where the SAME question was already answered. So, don't let da door hit ya on da way out! CC

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Bob Harvey

10-27-2006 20:35:48

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Re: Tractor still quitting part2 in reply to Dell (WA), 10-27-2006 20:11:05

OOPS, I didn't read the rest of the 'posts' HPH

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ron,ar

10-27-2006 19:17:03

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Re: Tractor still quitting part2 in reply to Dell (WA), 10-27-2006 19:10:05

I sure wish someone would convince me it ain"t my carb:^) I did go buy some autolite plugs today, just in case. I doubt it will help but I never shun good advice. Bad advice neither come to think about it.

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Dell (WA)

10-27-2006 19:34:24

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Re: Tractor still quitting part2 in reply to ron,ar, 10-27-2006 19:17:03

Ron..... ..ya know, I've been puzzle'n about yer highspeed ruff runnin' complaint. Convince me it ain't chur frontmount distributor wobblin' round. It would be noticeable at higher engine rpms. You just might need a frontmount distributor rebuild..... .Dell

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ron,ar

10-27-2006 20:03:11

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Re: Tractor still quitting part2 in reply to Dell (WA), 10-27-2006 19:34:24

I have had both the dist and gov apart, completly. No wobble in the bushings in the dist and the gov has been rebuilt completly. I even thought about the points "bouncing" and changed them again.

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Dell (WA)

10-27-2006 20:18:42

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Re: Tractor still quitting part2 in reply to ron,ar, 10-27-2006 20:03:11

Sorry Ron..... ..you didn't convince me that yer frontmount distributor guttz don't have some slop inn-itt. You've tried everything else, and yer being stubborn (I like that) but given the weirdness of yer complaint, it kinds seems to boil down to the weirdness of the frontmount distributor..... ..Dell

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ron,ar

10-27-2006 21:11:07

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well, Dell in reply to Dell (WA), 10-27-2006 20:18:42

I will mic the shaft and the inside of the buhings tomorrow, it's 11 pm and I started out early this morning. I ain't being stubborn, just telling it like I sees it. I have overhauled all kinds of mechanical things from Allison 643 automatics to old Rolls-Royce Spey and Dart7/Dart10 turboprop jet engines, not to count the scores of auto/truck engines. I think maybe after all these years these old eyes know "slop" when they see it, or don't see it, which ever the case be. I do have another front dist out there but I think maybe it IS worn. Still I may put this plate in it and see what happens. What do ya think about drillng and tapping the intake for a vacuum test port? There was a time when a vacuum gauge would tell me lots of things. That was a long time ago tho:^)

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Dell (WA)

10-28-2006 08:26:19

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Re: well, Dell in reply to ron,ar, 10-27-2006 21:11:07

Ron..... ...check yer distributor cam for uneven wear. The cam has sometimes been reported to be "lopp-sided" and will effect timing which becomes very noticeable at higher rpms. You check the points gap (0.015) every bump..... ..Dell

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Cargocult

10-27-2006 21:06:19

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Re: Tractor still quitting part2 in reply to Dell (WA), 10-27-2006 20:18:42

Maybe he should install his nice new set of Autolite Plugs b4 doin' anything to the distributor. I dunno why Champions don't like to work good in Ford Tractors. I use 'em in all my vehicles/boats, but in my tractor, they are not good and cause missin' 'n foulin'. Somebody orta do a study on this phenomenon! Seems like new plugs orta all be the same. Must be a Gummint conspiracy, hehehe! ;-) CC..GO CARDS!!!!! !!!!! !!!!! !!

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