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Rogar Lipe

10-28-2006 07:00:30




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I'm out of here

Please except my apologies if I wasted anyone's time with my stupid questions, I guess your not allowed .

And I would like to say Thank you to those who really tried helping me .

R.L.




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Ross Pugh(NC)

10-30-2006 03:57:17




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 Re: Ya know what in reply to Rogar Lipe, 10-28-2006 07:00:30  
After rereading all ye posts and answers the only problem I see is a chip on ye shoulder ye need to brush off and probably some wax in ye ears that needs cleaning out so ye can hear. Everyone was trying to help ye with ye problem, but ye seem to have ye mind already made up and too hard headed to change it or even try other suggestions. As I see it the only loser here is "you" and you forfeited the game. Good bye!!!

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JD Ga

10-29-2006 05:22:16




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 Re: Ya know what in reply to Rogar Lipe, 10-28-2006 07:00:30  
I'll have to give these people on this board alot of credit. I've never seen so much advice in one place. These guys ( and gals) really know what they're talking about. They have really helped me out many times. Keep up the GREAT work. And thanks for all yall have done for me.



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souNdguy

10-28-2006 22:09:13




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 Re: Ya know what in reply to Rogar Lipe, 10-28-2006 07:00:30  
Wow.. on 3 seperate occasions.. you have ignored 100% of the advice given to you.

None of the replies looke dlike they were too over the top.

Good luck on buying that new carb...and don't let the door hit you in the you know what on the way out.

By the way.. when you need more advise on how to fix the tractor.. I sugest you use a handle.. otherwise you probably won't get any replies next time...

Soundguy

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monomechanical

10-28-2006 21:59:38




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 You think that's rude . . . . . . in reply to Rogar Lipe, 10-28-2006 07:00:30  
Some might say--I never would--that if someone is so fragile that he or she gets offended by the suggestion, from people trying to help, "Please do a little research and listen more carefully" that he will remove him-self from one of the most informative tractor forums on the entire internet, some might say--I never would--he hasn't the fortitude to repair old tractors.

Here's what I would say is a good general rule applicable to everyone:
You've got to be humble if you're going to learn.

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Ken Br (NJ)

10-28-2006 20:20:30




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 Re: Ya know what in reply to Rogar Lipe, 10-28-2006 07:00:30  
I am new to this forum, as I am to owning and maintaining a 1940 9N that needs to work, not just look pretty. Here in rural NJ, I got a traveling mechanic who will come to my place sometime in the next week or two and work for $75 per hour to solve my problems, or I can pay someone to trailer my machine to a shop where I can get work done at whatever the goin rate is, or...I can open my tool box, roll up my sleeves and get to work.
I know enough about what I am doing to avoid major damage and generally just enough to get me in trouble. Guess I"m sort of a halfast shade tree mechanic.
Anyhow, what I have learned here, in just 2 months of reading posts, occasionally posting a question, is worth more in time, money and aggravation than I have the words to describe. These men take the time to patiently explain the very basic basics of how an internal cumbustion, troubleshooting, etc. I.E., autoshop 101 on line day and night.
This is knowledge you can"t borrow at the library, buy at your local shop, or steal by looking over the shoulder of the guy working on your machine in your barn.
I learned form reading your problem and the response, by the by.

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Gregg E

10-28-2006 18:35:11




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 Re: Ya know what in reply to Rogar Lipe, 10-28-2006 07:00:30  
Hang in there Rogar, all in all this is a great site for advise. There are a few who feel the need to act high and mighty, but for the most part they mean well. Take it with a grain of salt, even if there ebonics makes it difficult.



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John Franklin

10-28-2006 11:10:26




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 Re: Ya know what in reply to Rogar Lipe, 10-28-2006 07:00:30  
Boy this sure is a "friendly" place to be.

You guys should be ashamed of yourselves for treating this guy like this. He was asking for your help, you gave it, he takes your answers under advisement and trys to solve the problem He can't, you give him crap, he says goodbye, you give him crap some more.

Heck, I wouldn't want to come back either if it was me.

Respectfully...for those who know what that means,
John

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Bruce (VA)

10-28-2006 14:06:07




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 Re: Ya know what in reply to John Franklin, 10-28-2006 11:10:26  
John, please go back to page 10 & read the post there from 10/17, & the responses. Then, go to page 9, 10/18 and then page 4, 10/25. I think if you follow all of the posts and responses in that order, you will get a better understanding of what has transpired.



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John Franklin

10-28-2006 14:16:39




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 Re: Ya know what in reply to Bruce (VA), 10-28-2006 14:06:07  
I read what transpired...it made me perspire.

John



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Ross Pugh(NC)

10-30-2006 04:02:10




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 Re: Ya know what in reply to John Franklin, 10-28-2006 14:16:39  
John, you and ron must be 2 of a kind (a pair) and just like a poker hand most of the time a pair is a loser.



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Ross Pugh(NC)

10-30-2006 04:04:47




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 Re: Ya know what in reply to Ross Pugh(NC), 10-30-2006 04:02:10  
Sorry, I meant to say Roger instead of ron.



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Ken S.

10-28-2006 09:47:48




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 Re: Ya know what in reply to Rogar Lipe, 10-28-2006 07:00:30  
Well boys, proof positive that you can led'um to water, but yuh can't mak'um drink.

Rogar, I find the fact that people are still trying to help you, dispit your ignoring their advise on four previous posts, and your pissie attitude is a credit to the folks on this board. After you have wasted more money on a new carb. come on back and they will still be willing to help you find and fix real problem. amazing huh?

ps. it aintchur carb!

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Sean Feeney 2

10-28-2006 09:30:04




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 Re: Ya know what in reply to Rogar Lipe, 10-28-2006 07:00:30  
Open your ears, and close your mouth, all are trying to help you listen!.



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Barry in ON

10-28-2006 09:25:59




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 Re: Ya know what in reply to Rogar Lipe, 10-28-2006 07:00:30  
I have been an auto mechanic for over 40 years and I read this forum because I keep learning new things.
After 40 years you would think I knew it all wouldn't you? Well none of us do! Sometimes you pick up things from people who are new to the hobby and sometimes you get veterans like Dell with a new insight. The secret is to listen and learn. Go back and read Bruce (VA)'s response which is articulate and to the point and then decide.If you leave it will be your lose. Cheers,
Barry

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Bruce (VA)

10-28-2006 09:06:53




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 Re: Ya know what in reply to Rogar Lipe, 10-28-2006 07:00:30  
Step back from the attitude a minute and try this scenario. Lets say you are driving through a state & town where you have never been before. You stop for a cup of coffee & there are a bunch of folks talking about N Ford tractors. Now, because you can see & hear them, you can observe their dress, mannerisms & even understand those with some heavy accents. Some are well dressed, some in jeans & t-shirts, some in work uniforms. Old, young & in-between. Some white, some black. Nearly all males. Some w/ a smart mouth, others a bit more articulate than others & some who clearly are mechanics & most who clearly are not. The only two things they have in common is that they like old Ford tractors & are willing to share their knowledge. You are having a problem with your tractor & ask a question. Which, from reading your posts & all the good responses you got was "My tractor doesn't run well & I think it's the carb" Now, remember, you do not know these folks from Adam's house cat. When you get what you think is a snippy response, or when 2 or 3 of them tell you what they think your problem might be, and a lot more responses asking you for more info..... and you continue to disbelieve them & keep going after a carb problem..... then you have to make a decision. Are you going to say "Sorry guys, I wasn't listening to you. I did not give you enough info to help me find the problem & I disregarded the advice from 5 or 6 of you who said it was not my carb". Or, is your decision going to be to punch out of the forum? And, as you leave, you want us to know why. Fine, thank you for your observations. I respectfully disagree with you. You got a lot of help & a lot of good advice & you ignored it. That is just fine w/ me & I suspect w/ a lot of other folks as well. But, I'll tell you this much: if you ask for my advice, and then want to argue with me or ignore it, just do me the courtesy of telling me that my advice was incorrect. Tell me the answer. I can accept that & learn from it. And, if you post it here, others may learn as well. But, if I tell you something 2 or 3 times & you do not accept it, and you do not tell me what the answer is, I don't really see a need for you to take up anymore of my time.

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ron,ar

10-28-2006 08:29:03




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 stay! in reply to Rogar Lipe, 10-28-2006 07:00:30  
This is not a negative board, it is just that often times the same questions come up over and over again. To the owner it is a big concern and important in his life but to some on here I guess it seems like it is "we have answered this a hundred times, when are folks gonna listen" The archieves are not easy to navigate if you have never used them. I used to think folks were a little smart mouthed til I learned their different internet personalities (yes, we all have a cyber-side to us) and had to find where I fit in. I have learned a lot (most of which I used to know, just forgot) and hopefully helped some too. I have been fighting a similar problem as yours for months, don't feel alone. I also fight the "carb problems are electrical in nature" curse. No one here means you any ill will, but if you ask for advice, try the advice then let us know if it helped or not. Remember-ALL OF US ARE SMARTER THAN ONE OF US, thats why these boards are here, to help each other. So stick around, you may be able to help us also.

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Stumpalump

10-28-2006 08:15:39




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 Re: Ya know what in reply to Rogar Lipe, 10-28-2006 07:00:30  
I was fixing copy machines for a living when I got at my whits end. Drove over an hour to the office to get a lojic cpu board. Just tooling down the road out of the blue the real problem just hit me. I wasn't even thinking about the problem. This happened again at a later date. I fixed a machine in a shrinks office and told him about this mistery of how the solution just pops in my head after some time passes. Your subconsious mind continues to go over and over the problem and works it out for you. He said. Take a break from it. Go back and read all the posts when you are relaxed. The particular dudes that have been helping you are bad to the bone sharp and will help you till it's fixed. We are sick and love this stuff. Hang in there again!

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dan hill

10-29-2006 02:04:03




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 Re: Ya know what in reply to Stumpalump, 10-28-2006 08:15:39  
Many solutions to problems in electronics and mechanics have come to me while eating lunch or driving.Many people who ask advice have their minds made up to do the wrong thing.I had a problem with short lived horizontal output transistors in a color tv.A parts salesman stopped in and we talked about the problem,He looked at the schematic and circled 3 capacitors.He said ,one of these will be open.He was right on because he had a repair shop of his own and like most small town shops there was never enough work.He had contact with other technicians on his second job. He was much older than me and had more experience.Richard Dowe passed on several years ago.I will always remember his willingness to help solve a problem.Many of the parts salemen had worked on radio,tv and appliances a were a goldmine of information.I have noted the those who know nothing about a simple ignition system are the hardest to advise.I remember a fellow who was using an old military truck to skid tree lenght fire wood.He had replaced the entire ignition system.The truck skipped badly pulling a load up hill.I took the gas filter out of the carberator.The next load came up the hill with no skipping.I gave him a new filter next morning.A mechanic friend had replaced all the ignition parts on his ford .We took a trip to buy parts with the car.It ran very well until it came to a long hill then would skip.While the car was parked in my drive way I smelled gasoline.After he backed out I saw three gas stains on the drive way.Called him and said, check your gas line.Problem fixed.I have learned this over the years.If you are frustrated with a problem, have some one else look at it.They can think more clearly about it because the outcome dosent affect them.They may be smarter than you.They may have solved the same problem in the past.Everybody knows things that you dont..

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mn.Chuck

10-28-2006 07:46:56




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 Re: Ya know what in reply to Rogar Lipe, 10-28-2006 07:00:30  
Rogar, A problem can be in the body of the sed.
bowl assembly. This cannot be cleaned, except by
poss. newer chemicals that we never had years ago.
Fuel will flow until crud resettles in the neck,
and along with build up in the body restricts the
flow. If your bowl assy. looks very vintage it may
be time for a new one. Best to you Rogar, Chuck



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hvw

10-28-2006 07:34:39




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 Re: Ya know what in reply to Rogar Lipe, 10-28-2006 07:00:30  
I'll express regrets on behalf of the board. See you later.



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Ande

10-28-2006 19:25:52




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 Re: Ya know what in reply to hvw, 10-28-2006 07:34:39  
hvw
I agree with you
Ande



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Screens..John,PA

10-28-2006 07:18:48




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 Re: Ya know what in reply to Rogar Lipe, 10-28-2006 07:00:30  
Roger..... make sure to check the 3 screens in the fuel lines. 1 in the bottom of the fuel tank, 1 in the fuel bowl, and 1 at the elbow at the carb. inlet. If one of these screens are partially blocked, your carb will be starved of fuel after the engine warms up. Thereby needing choke applications to keep her runn'N.

Hope this helps. John,PA



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Dave H (MI)

10-28-2006 07:14:52




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 Re: Ya know what in reply to Rogar Lipe, 10-28-2006 07:00:30  
As a person who has no vested interest in your issue and does not routinely post on this forum...but knows the people here by reputation...I can tell you that the only problem I see here is your bad attitude. Did you NEVER take a shop class as a kid? When you come into this type of forum and ask for help you can expect a little ribbing and some stiff responses.
Take it, along with the good, sound, free advice and be happy there is such a place to turn to.

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