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ROBERTN

11-02-2006 19:50:23




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I was told to put Marvel Mystery Oil into my fuel for my 1951 8N. Is this good practice, what does it do and how much do I put in a tankful of gas?




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dan hill

11-04-2006 01:51:56




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 Re: Should I do this? in reply to ROBERTN, 11-02-2006 19:50:23  
MMO will swell the O ring in the naa 600 series gas shut off and make it hard to open and close.The packing in older shut offs may not be affected this way.



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Tool Kat

11-03-2006 18:26:53




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 Re: Should I do this? in reply to ROBERTN, 11-02-2006 19:50:23  
I think Ethel(sp?) anti knock came out in 1927.
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Peter, Covington, LA

11-03-2006 07:52:03




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 Re: Should I do this? in reply to ROBERTN, 11-02-2006 19:50:23  
In my other hobby, which is Model T Fords, various posts on the forum suggest using both Sta-Bil and Marvel Mystery Oil.

The Sta-Bil is used because modern gasolines have very short deterioration times, due to a lot of aromatics (stuff that evaporates quickly). I use it in my tractor as well, because it takes a while to use a tank of gas, since I don't use the tractor daily.

The MMO is usualy added to the oil and the gas. We have even evolved a super-duper measurement technique, although it is based on the older metal cans the MMO used to come in. It was, you add two "galugs" to a full tank of gas (10 gallons). A galug is the sound the MMO makes coming out of the can.

The thinking about adding the MMO to the gas is that the upper parts of the engine need lubrication - things like valve guides. About adding it to the crankcase, it seems to make the oil penetrate better.

While they aren't identical, an N tractor's engine is closer to a Model T than it is to a modern engine. Low speed, flat head, valves in the block, updraft carburetor, twentysomething horsepower, etc. etc. What works for one probably works for both. And, the MMO smells so nice! Some say it makes their exhaust smell better.

We are constantly reminded of a general fact about Model T's, and I suspect it holds true for N tractors as well. It is, simply stated, that any product you can buy today to put into your crankcase or fuel tank (or grease gun), bears almost no resemblance to the products that were available when the engine was designed. They are several quantum leaps better, but still different. Being intelligent about giving your engine a little help in that regard certainly can't hurt.

As an example, folks often ask about the possible damage to be done by using unleaded fuel in a Model T. Well, there was no lead in the gas they sold back then, either -- so what's the problem? Of course, gasoline back then bore more resemblance to today's kerosene than today's gasoline so adding some oil to it is probably helpful. Anyway, that's the thinking path we use.

By the way, maybe someone out there knows -- when was lead added to gasoline, relative to the prodction of N tractors?

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Henry M

11-03-2006 05:31:54




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 Re: Should I do this? in reply to ROBERTN, 11-02-2006 19:50:23  
Robert

I think it is all in what makes you feel right. I kept an empty container that had stabill in it and now fill it with mystery oil and usually throw an ounce in the gas tank. It may take me a long time to use a half tank of gas so I keep it pretty well doped up.

But who knows, I even use that stuff because it is handy to refill the little squirt bottle that I oil the air tools with.

If you got an engine that is up to standards and crank it up only when you have a use for it, I have never had a problem with pllug fouling. I have run out of gas out in the barn for lawnmowers and the pressure washer and tiller. I can guarantee you that they all run fine on the stuff I had to use that was mixed for the two cycles. A lot of times I am just not in the mood to drop things and run to town for a can of gas.

Anyhow, I bet that it won't hurt anything.

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old

11-02-2006 19:57:06




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 Re: Should I do this? in reply to ROBERTN, 11-02-2006 19:50:23  
It can help if done once in a while but doing it every time will not hurt any thing but also not really help any thing either. All doing that does is help clean the valves some and lube the upper part of the engine better. But if used to much it can cause the plugs to foul out faster



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