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9N'er

05-24-2001 03:52:56




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Getting ripped off is one thing but nothing has prepared me for poison ivy ovr this past week.

I'm covered with it, and it itches, and man oh man, it itches terribly bad.

And, you would not believe where it itches, but it itches there too. Blisters, rashes, bumps and itches.

Think I'm going to the clinic today. Maybe I can get a cortisone shot. Someone suggested they amputate at the shoulders, but that seems like overkill.

One thing for sure, it just plain itches, and I refuse to have anything cut off.

Anybody have any home remedies for poison ivy itch? 9N'er

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JOHN

05-24-2001 21:01:34




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 Re: oh no, in reply to 9N'er, 05-24-2001 03:52:56  
My sympathy. I have been there too, only with poison oak that somehow got into the burn pile(the same effect you describe). The doctor said he'd never seen a case like that, I looked and felt like a partially cooked lobster. Anyway he gave me the pills (prednistone ) AND a shot of hydro cortosone. Since then I found a product that you can shower with and it is supposed to bind up the molecules of the oil from poison oak and ivy after OR before you are exposed to them; it is called TECHNU, and it is available at most drugstores out here. I have heard of lots of home remedies for poison oak and ivy, but the ones I have tried don't work. Once you get sensitive to it, you can get it by petting your dog after it runs through the brush and gets the oil on its fur. Roundup works pretty good on control of both P.oak and ivy, but you have to hit it at the right time and sometimes give it another shot. Again, my sympathy. Head for the clinic. JOHN :>{

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Mark B (PA)

05-24-2001 18:38:41




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 Re: oh no, in reply to 9N'er, 05-24-2001 03:52:56  
9N'er, I feel your pain. Back in my courtin' days me and Debbie Lynn (name changed to protect the wicked) went on a moonlit stroll and found romance by the side of the trail. We both ended up with the stuff from top to toe. To this day, I never told anyone except you fine folks about this. Too embarassing. Builds alot of character fighting off the urge to scratch everywhere it itches however.
Had alot PI before and since, but never that bad. Nothing was ever real effective in treating it but prescrition stuff as I recall. I'm pretty good at ID'ing it and staying out of it now.

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9n'er

05-25-2001 04:15:32




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 Re: Re: oh no, in reply to Mark B (PA), 05-24-2001 18:38:41  
Debbie Lynn? The Debbie Lynn in Pennsylvania? I think I know her too. What a coincidence! If I'm not mistaken the Debbie Lynn I know is susceptible to poison ivy...she said something about getting it bad once, and then she trailed off with a far off and wistful look. I knew then, that there was a better man out there in this world, and it had to do with poison ivy and sigh. Oh well, win some-lose some. Lucky you. Not only do you have a 600 to die for, you and Debbie Lynn too!! I'm double jealous now. Some guys have all the luck.
9N'er

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Mark B (PA)

05-25-2001 05:02:36




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 Re: Re: Re: oh no, in reply to 9n'er, 05-25-2001 04:15:32  
9Ner, Don't be jealous, Debbie left me for a guy with a 9N! I don't recall his name anymore, but Debbie said she couldn't resist a man with a nicely restored 9N that knew how to fight a forest fire. (LOL)
Seriously, that was 20+ years ago. These days contact with poison ivy OR Debbie Lynn would be cause for a trip to the clinic. Here's hoping your trip to the clinic gets you some relief from that itch. Good luck! - Mark

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9N'er

05-25-2001 18:36:03




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: oh no, in reply to Mark B (PA), 05-25-2001 05:02:36  
Someday, when we meet, we'll have one for all the clinics in the world, and have many more after that to forget about the Debbie Lynn's of the world too. LOL!! 9N'er

p.s. did I ever tell you about Renee? better than my story about TSX 33 Carbs!!!



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Don CO

05-24-2001 16:37:00




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 Re: oh no, in reply to 9N'er, 05-24-2001 03:52:56  
Simple solution: Douse EVERYTHING with gas; clothes, hair, skin, tractor & implement you were using @ the time. Get a close friend to toss you a match...POOF!! No more poison ivy worries, right?
LOL



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Ultradog MN

05-24-2001 16:05:47




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 Re: oh no, in reply to 9N'er, 05-24-2001 03:52:56  
Man this is a great forum. You can learn more here by accident...
I'm almost looking forward to my next bout of PI just to try some of these remedies. Well maybe not.
There was an old hand around here who used to sell
a potion for PI made out of touch-me-nots. Worked too they say.



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JOHN-N-FLA

05-24-2001 15:01:09




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 Re: oh no, in reply to 9N'er, 05-24-2001 03:52:56  
OATMEAL BATH WORKS SOME YOU CAN BUY IT AT ANY DRUG STORE FEEL SORRY FOR YOU PAL SURE HOPE ITS NOT TO HOT WERE YOU ARE



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JimNC

05-24-2001 14:59:15




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 Re: oh no, in reply to 9N'er, 05-24-2001 03:52:56  
POISON IVY TREATMENT

2 C. water Tobacco from 3 cigarettes

Combine water and tobacco. Bring to a boil and simmer about 5 minutes.

Carefully strain all the tobacco from the brew, since it may burn sensitive skin. Let the liquid cool. Apply it to inflamed areas with a clean cloth. This ensures immediate relief from the itching and burning discomfort.

Got this from a very reliable source.

Hope this helps

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Snowplow

05-24-2001 14:52:12




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 Re: oh no, in reply to 9N'er, 05-24-2001 03:52:56  
Beer!



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tomL

05-24-2001 14:12:35




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 Re: oh no, in reply to 9N'er, 05-24-2001 03:52:56  
Heres a little different spin. Dont burn the stuff or at least get in the fumes. Knew a lady that took all kinds of medicines because it got in her blood.



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Mountainman

05-24-2001 11:27:46




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 Re: oh no, in reply to 9N'er, 05-24-2001 03:52:56  
Don't forget to wash your tractor. You just drove through all that PI and every time you (or any one else) touch those tires or any part near the mower, you could get a renewed dose.

The Coasters (remember them?) said "you are going to need an ocean of Calamine lotion". I don't know if they still make that stuff.

Poison Oak doesn't grow at this elevation so I am fortunate. Good luck.

Mountainman (CA)

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Mountainman? where are you? inCa?

05-24-2001 14:27:18




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 Re: Re: oh no, in reply to Mountainman , 05-24-2001 11:27:46  
I worked in Quincy for a short while, and at Somes Bar on the Klamath National Forest. I had relatives in Quincy, up there in those northern California gold hills. And, I have some good memories of northern California, Mt. Shasta, the Marble Mountain Wilderness, Trinity Alps, and of course the river, mountain lions, and the coast...and those mountains all around. Learned to pack horses, and tie a diamond hitch, pack mules, shoe em, hobble, and pasture em. Got to the point that I spent enough time wandering around in thoe mountains alone for days and weeks that seeing a person become an exception. SOmedays, I rolled out of my bag on some peak, and I wondered why I even needed to wear clothes...the weather was always sunny, warm, and predictable; an no one was around. Got to the point I left the tent behind, and figured if it rained; I would get wet...but would dry out eventually. Carried a one man crosscut and an axe, and worked the trails alone and became pretty good at axe work, clearing trail, eating one pot meals etc...will I ever have a horse again??...no. Also, that manzanita? you can have it...as well as the poison oak. 9N'er

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Mountainman

05-24-2001 23:21:53




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 Re: Re: Re: oh no, in reply to Mountainman? where are you? inCa?, 05-24-2001 14:27:18  
Boy, all those places sure have been fun for me too. I hiked up Lassen with my dad when I was in my teens and I guess that started it all. Swam in the river near Quincy a time or two. I've spent the last twenty years exploring and camping and soon living in Nevada County. I built a firepit in 1978 that except for my friends, no one else has ever used. At 5000 ft elev it has a million dollar view over the S. fork Yuba canyon for many miles. I've spent at least one night in a tent (or not) there every calendar month except March (snow too deep to get in). But I love the manzanita. It provides food for the bears and is the best wood for cooking — steak shrimp chicken fish etc. — because it has almost no visable smoke and burns hot - nice coals. I eat better camping than I do at home. grin It's the Cianothis I hate — even the N with a blade won't do it in completely.
My ex had a horse and we camped for a month one time with horse (dog,cat,pair of chickens). I had a small motorcycle and the horse treated me somewhat like another horse so we all got along. Hobble the horse? No reason for that — we let the horse loose and she had the whole Tahoe National Forest to play in, but never left sight of the trailer or one of us. She came up behind me at the campfire one night and put her huge head on my shoulder watching the fire for over half an hour. She sure let us know when the bear came by a quarter mile away (the dog slept) — we found the bear prints in the morning. But I know what a horse produces and have had to deal with it enough to earn the shirt so it is unlikely I would ever have one.
I grew up in the SF east bay hills and so I know about Posion Oak. Where I am/will be in Nevada County (4350 ft elev) is above the poison oak and not just coincidentally.
Hope you get over yours soon.

Mountainman (CA)

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Box of Rocks

05-24-2001 11:27:38




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 Re: oh no, in reply to 9N'er, 05-24-2001 03:52:56  
Don't listen to these old wives tales. If you really want to get rid of the PI - RUN, DON'T WALK to your doctor and ask him (her) for the steroids. They make every other drugstore, voodoo, Indian, yahoo, method look like a comedy. They work brother - fast.



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Nelly,

05-24-2001 08:22:14




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 Re: oh no, in reply to 9N'er, 05-24-2001 03:52:56  
For severe cases I'd recommend "benadryl" for the itch and a medrol dosepak--(oral steroid) to "speed relief". I'm a firm believer in western medicine. David



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John Maki (CO)

05-24-2001 10:53:47




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 Re: Re: oh no, in reply to Nelly,, 05-24-2001 08:22:14  
I'll second the comment about the Medrol Dosepack. Used to get poison ivy *bad* when I lived in Illinois, tried chlorine bleach, caladryl, hyrdrocortisone... only thing that really cleaned it up fast was the oral steroid. Use this for a last resort...



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so, the general consenus is to leave everything intact...

05-24-2001 07:52:58




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 Re: oh no, in reply to 9N'er, 05-24-2001 03:52:56  
and no need to cut anything off. glad to hear that! Oh man does it ITCH and burn!!!!! !!!!! ! This definitely is not one of those scratch and sniff things...

I like to follow the advice on this Board, and if everyone said cutitoff, I would have to say, that this would be the first time I would have some serious doubts about the expertiese of this Board.

Got to run...I mean scratch, oh by the way, the mosquitos are coming out, the black flies too, pulled two wood ticks out of my receding hairline and I noticed a ground wasp or hornets nest by my woodsplitter. Danger lurks around every corner. Ahhhhh summer and working in the woods and brush, got to love it! 9N'er

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Darryl (Mo)

05-24-2001 13:03:54




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 Re: Re: oh no, in reply to so, the general consenus is to leave everything intact..., 05-24-2001 07:52:58  
9N'er wrote:

>> oh by the way, the mosquitos are coming out, the black flies too, pulled two wood ticks out of my receding hairline and I noticed a ground wasp or hornets nest by my woodsplitter. Danger lurks around every corner<<

Don't worry! Somewhere there's a government bureaucrat preparing legislation/regulations to protect us all from EVERYTHING!

Regards,
Darryl



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that's good to know

05-24-2001 14:35:24




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 Re: Re: Re: oh no, in reply to Darryl (Mo), 05-24-2001 13:03:54  
thank goodness the government keeps employment up and the economy rolling. I'll send you a draft of those regulations for a final proof, you can expect about 28 weeks of review, thirteen layers of burocracy, 145 drafts, 38 final drafts, public comment for 45 days, another 68 final drafts, and finally a signature. But by then the administration will have changed, a new president would rescind the protections and order, and I'll have another job reviewing the draft regulations and preparing a review board for a recommendation. How do I know these things? don't ask. 9N'er

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so, the general consenus is to leave everything intact...

05-24-2001 07:50:45




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 Re: oh no, in reply to 9N'er, 05-24-2001 03:52:56  
and no need to cut anything off. glad to hear that! Oh man does it ITCH and burn!!!!! !!!!! ! This definitely is not one of those scratch and sniff things...

I like to follow the advice on this Board, and if everyone said cutitoff, I would have to say, that this would be the first time I would have some serious doubts about the expertiese of this Board.

Got to run...I mean scratch, oh by the way, the mosquitos are coming out, the black flies too, pulled two wood ticks out of my receding hairline and I noticed a ground wasp or hornets nest by my woodsplitter. Danger lurks around every corner. Ahhhhh summer and working in the woods and brush, got to love it! 9N'er

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Darryl (Mo)

05-24-2001 07:24:15




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 Re: oh no, in reply to 9N'er, 05-24-2001 03:52:56  
Hi 9N'er,

If you're particularly sensitive to poison ivy (sounds like you may be) watch out for your dog if you have one. If the dog goes through a patch of p.i. and comes to you to be petted the oils from the offending plant can be transferred to you. My daughter kept getting light cases of p.i. and we couldn't figure out where she was getting it. I read about the dog possibility and with a little observation determined that was the likely source. Something to watch for, maybe.

Regards, Darryl

PS I once got a #10 case in /around my eyes as a kid from burning wood at a winter skating party which had some vines on it. Eyes swelled shut, pretty miserable.

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Barry N Indiana

05-24-2001 10:42:30




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 Re: Re: oh no, in reply to Darryl (Mo), 05-24-2001 07:24:15  
Yep dogs and cats can bring it to you as can the blades on the mowers that you used to mow the stuff down then forgot about and then take them off to sharpen! Also be careful of the clothes you were wearing...if you take them off and drop them in the laundry the wife can get it from picking them up and taking them to the washing machine...then there will be many more days she won't let you touch her!

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Mark *8N126975*

05-24-2001 07:12:51




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 Re: oh no, in reply to 9N'er, 05-24-2001 03:52:56  
You can pick up a tube of Rhuligel at the drugstore. I think Bandaid bought the company now, but it's a clear gel. This stuff is really great. I discovered it a few years ago and I keep a tube in the medicine chest all the time.



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rob 8N11071 KS

05-24-2001 06:33:55




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 Re: oh no, in reply to 9N'er, 05-24-2001 03:52:56  
I get it every turkey season.

Prednisone, cortisone shot, and Fels Naptha soap for the weeping (found in laundry section).

I wouldn't even think of fighting it off without Prednisone.



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Paul in VA

05-24-2001 05:37:57




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 Re: oh no, in reply to 9N'er, 05-24-2001 03:52:56  
Been afflicted with that stuff all my life. Well, I guess I had to get sensitized, so maybe the first time was free. Anyhow...my experience with the internal cortizone was extrememly negative and I would never do it again. Yes, it seems to have helped dry up the rash a bit quicker than just leaving it alone, but side effects were severe insomnia and grouchiness.

Most of us who have been sensitive since childhood have learned to see it and avoid it. By "see it" I mean, it just visually jumps out of the surroundings as if it were painted orange, no need to look for it. If contact is made, immediately wash with cool water from a brook, or scrub with the juice of a nearby watery plant like jewel weed (snap weed, toutch me not) or the like (not nettles). If you are close to home, leave your clothes in the washing machine on your way to jump in the shower and wash off with soap and warm water, following immediately with clorox or an iodine surigical scrub. Chlorine and iodine chemically tie up urushiol (the oily substance which causes the dermatitis. Remember that any implements which were used in the poison ivy will remain a source of recontamination until they are cleaned.

Once you have it, just don't scratch (much). Oatmeal baths, corticosteroid creams, calimine lotion, etc. help but you will still have to grin and bear it. It will go away on its own in about a week or week and a half, if left untreated...seven to ten days with treatment.

There is lots of good info on the web: try this link.

Happy scratching,

Paul

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tbrake

05-24-2001 05:33:57




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 Re: oh no, in reply to 9N'er, 05-24-2001 03:52:56  
Here in West (by god) Virginia we have a plant that we locals call touch-me-nots, most people call it jewel weed. Take the stem of this plant and crush it then take the sap/juice and apply to the poison. It is easy to do the stem is real pulpy. It really works, guarantee. I had a friend whose kid was really allergic to poision ivy. She would collect a bunch and run it through the blender and keep a quart jar of the stuff on hand.

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Tyler (MD)

05-24-2001 14:30:32




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 Re: Re: oh no, in reply to tbrake, 05-24-2001 05:33:57  
Ah yes, West Virginia. "Where men are men and sheep are scared". :-)

BTW, I was born there, so I've heard all the jokes.

I'll have to ask grandma about the touch-me-nots. I'll bet she's heard of them.

Sounds like some good stuff.

Tyman



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Bert

05-24-2001 05:28:12




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 Re: oh no, in reply to 9N'er, 05-24-2001 03:52:56  

Not a "home" remedy but an OTC product called "IVY-DRY" works for me. Its a clear liquid, active ingredient is zinc acetate. $4 for a 4 oz. bottle and well worth it.

Some recommend oatmeal, others use the juice and pulp from Impatiens Pallida, called touch-me-not, jewelweed or snapweed.



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Steve W

05-24-2001 05:10:29




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 Re: oh no, in reply to 9N'er, 05-24-2001 03:52:56  
Relief:

The histamines released that cause you to itch have a limited supply. Stand in a hot shower (as hot as you can stand) for 5 full minutes. That will release all the itch you got and allow you to work and function for about four hours itch free. Do it again when the four hours are up. This is the only relief I have ever found. It really works!

Take Care
Steve



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Tyler (MD)

05-24-2001 14:22:04




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 Re: Re: oh no, in reply to Steve W, 05-24-2001 05:10:29  
I agree!!

Tyman



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LazyHorse

05-24-2001 05:02:05




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 Re: oh no, in reply to 9N'er, 05-24-2001 03:52:56  
An old indian preventive to keep from getting poison ivy is to eat a green leaf from the plant. I guess it's supposed to boost your immune system. If you are exposed it's a good idea to wash off the contact areas as soon as possible with soap and cold water, so your pores dont open and let the oil in.



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05-24-2001 05:49:12




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 Re: Re: oh no, in reply to LazyHorse, 05-24-2001 05:02:05  
Eating poison ivy leaves is not recommended. They have found it doesn't work, even though it's an age-old folk remedy.

They make a kit now, by prescription from your doctor. I guess it's a series of antihistamine pills that you take over a period of days.

I use a very mild solution of Clorox/ cold water after exposure to p.i. Seems to work. Once you get it, the best remedy is to put boxing gloves on your hands and tie your hands behind your back, so you can't scratch it.

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dave#1

05-24-2001 04:33:58




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 Re: oh no, in reply to 9N'er, 05-24-2001 03:52:56  
Use to be , I could swim in that stuff and never catch it, Not anymore!!, I got nailed with it last spring while clearing my back woods, like you, I had it "Everywhere" and being a man with 4 kids I think you can guess what my favorite pass time is, yep, wife would'nt let me touch her for 3 weeks !!- "Now that will drive a man to drink"
ROFL

later,dave



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Ed Gooding (VA)

05-24-2001 04:49:32




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 Re: Re: oh no, in reply to dave#1, 05-24-2001 04:33:58  
Ya know, if you and 9N'er would go get a room at Motel 6 like everyone else, and not be sneakin' off into the woods naked, you wouldn't be gettin' poison ivy in the particular places you two have mentioned..... ....just a thought..... .

ROFL..... ...Ed



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Tyler (MD)

05-24-2001 14:18:42




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 Re: Re: Re: oh no, in reply to Ed Gooding (VA), 05-24-2001 04:49:32  
Yep, and I also read where those motels don't change the bed comforters but once a year. So, maybe you can catch something else and would make ya forget about the itch. :-)

Tyman



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Ed Gooding (VA)

05-24-2001 15:33:39




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: oh no, in reply to Tyler (MD), 05-24-2001 14:18:42  
You tryin' to tell me that the comforter wasn't supposed to be GREEN ????

Oh nooooo ooooo ooooo o



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Don (NC)

05-24-2001 04:33:29




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 Re: oh no, in reply to 9N'er, 05-24-2001 03:52:56  
In addition to the cortisone shot, there's some over-the-counter cortisone creams that help me a lot when i've got "the itch". That has dried up a big patch for me in a couple of days. Good luck, that's just bad stuff.



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Salmoneye

05-24-2001 04:18:37




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 Re: oh no, in reply to 9N'er, 05-24-2001 03:52:56  
I feel for ya man...I have the stuff everywhere here including 50 feet up in a Red Oak. The vine is half the size if my arm...

Last year I had it 4 times about as bad as you are describing. Just couldn't get it through my head that when you mow through it you need to shower immediately. I have already had one bout with it this year and the snow wasn't even gone yet. That time I got it from cutting a vine and pulling it with bare hands. I can normally get away with this if all I touch is the woody bark, but this time the bark stripped off in my hands and I was covered in the pitch.

Remedies: Aint None but Time

But there are things that will help.
Chlorine swimming pools are one, but I don't recommend just jumping into the neighbors hot tub ;-)
Home made Lye Soap is another good way to help dry it out. I am fresh out though and the woman that makes it for me has not butchered off a hog in a few years so I may have to start making it myself.
The last one that really works is 'Sweet Fern'.
You being from NH and all, I think you will know this fern by this name. It grows on sandy half shaded banks all over Vermont, so I am assuming that you can find some too.
What you do is pick it, dry it hanging overnight and then crush and make a tea as strong as you can get it. Some oldtimers will drink some too, but what you do is swab it on the affected areas and let it dry. You will feel almost immediate relief and it actually will speed the healing of the blisters.

Sure hope some of this helps!

Leaves of three, let it be...

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