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BLASTED STARTER BUTTEN

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Rod From IL

11-14-2006 21:24:16

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Well she is alot like my wife works when she wants to. Got the 48 8N to stop doing the same thing but I have to jump acrost the Starter to get her to fire. SOO I am thinking Bad ground some place so I am going to put a new 6v Ground and Pos Wire on she is 12v but MAN them 6v big as your thumb cables are cool and work better. But it is a new Starter Button, But I had someone helping me put that in and I am not to sure of his wrench turning ability. I am going to look at some of these things but any other things to check wile I am at it? I have my 2 girls and all there little friends coming over this week end and I need that blasted button to work. Little girls get scarred when Jumper cables come out LOL. any how

If we could only bottle the smell of old tractor.

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Rod From IL

11-15-2006 14:25:32

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Re: BLASTED STARTER BUTTEN in reply to Rod From IL, 11-14-2006 21:24:16

Well I had to chang the Hydro Fluid and Figed mmm ok new Butten mite do it prob not but mite. I cleand the ground and put a new Ground strap on so I know its getting a GOOD ground to the bat. I took the wire from the starter button and put it right to the Batt. (NO GO) well if I unerstand this right ( BIG IF)it just completes a circuit. So I am thinking the Starter solenoid but it is brand new as well. I have one that I can put on to see if it clicks as least so we will see. Ran out of time and had to go get the kids from school. Thats always fun smelling like Hydro Fluid. Durty work shurt and geans to match. LOL 12 year OLD (Girl) is always going THAT IS JUST THE MAN THAT LIVES IN THE SHED.LOL I tell her I have to embarrass her all I can she will not be home much longer. Any how will keep you all up to date and if there is any other Ideas I will be checking this before I go play. ( after wife and Kids are sleeping)

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Pooh Bear

11-15-2006 05:06:32

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Re: BLASTED STARTER BUTTEN in reply to Rod From IL, 11-14-2006 21:24:16

Sounds like my 49 8N.
I carry an old hacksaw blade in the toolbox just so
I can jump across the terminals on the starter relay
when the button refuses to work.
Also I have found that putting it in 4th gear and
rocking it forward a bit then trying to start it
helps a lot. So I'm not entirely sure the problem
is just with the starter button on the dash.
(turn the key switch off when you rock it).

Wonder why it works like this.
Be nice to be able to hit the button
and have it start every time.

Pooh Bear

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RustyFarmall

11-15-2006 06:29:23

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Re: BLASTED STARTER BUTTEN in reply to Pooh Bear, 11-15-2006 05:06:32

It works like that because the starter drive is hanging up on the teeth of the flywheel ring gear. The starter drive is worn, the flywheel ring gear is worn, or both. It is a common problem on these old tractors, no matter the color or brand. The only real cure is to split the tractor and replace the ring gear, and probably the starter drive too. Cheaper and easier to just rock the tractor when needed, or loosen the starter mounting bolts and wiggle the starter until you hear the click, and then tighten it back up.

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Dunk

11-15-2006 06:23:35

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Re: BLASTED STARTER BUTTEN in reply to Pooh Bear, 11-15-2006 05:06:32

All that the starter button does is make sure it is in neutral, and then it grounds the little wire that goes to it, to energize the solenoid.

If pushing down on it and twisting it doesn't make it connect and and energize the solenoid, then yo can pull back the little rubber boot, and take the end of your pocket knife and short the little wire/screw to the case.

It should then energize the solenoid without leaving the tractor.

I assume no responsibility for your actions, but in my opinion is is safer to do it this way than to do it standing on the ground in front of the big wheel with a hacksaw blade.

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Pooh Bear

11-15-2006 19:08:16

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Re: BLASTED STARTER BUTTEN in reply to Dunk, 11-15-2006 06:23:35

I ALWAYS make sure it is in neutral before I start it.
Doesn't matter whether I am on it or not.
I have a button on the dash. I don't use the little
thingy next to the gearshifter.

Another thing I do before I start the engine cold is
I ALWAYS check the oil first.

Developing these habits could save a lot of heartache
and expense later on.

If I treated my car half as good as I treated my
tractor then the car would propably run for 57 years too.

Pooh Bear

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Rod From IL

11-15-2006 20:06:23

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NOT THE BLASTED BUTTON in reply to Pooh Bear, 11-15-2006 19:08:16

LOL well after all that, I taped on the top of the starter solenoid lovingly and she turned right on LOL SO I gess I need to tap on her a little bit now and then.

Thanks all

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