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O.T. F-150 oilpan blues

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RoyNKy

11-18-2006 17:27:13




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Hi Folks , This is way off topic but at least it is ford. I have a 4.9 l 6cly. that blew out an oilpan gasket . According to the Haynes Manual you are supposted to drop exhaust ,motor mounts ect.and be able to pull the pan to replace the gasket. I have done so but have had no luck. I have the engine raised to the point of lifting the front of the truck off the ground and I still need about 3/4" to get the pan out . Anybody got any neat tricks they are willing to share ? Thanks for your time and this forum is the BEST!

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RoyNKy

11-19-2006 15:25:41




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 Re: O.T. F-150 oilpan blues thanks! in reply to RoyNKy, 11-18-2006 17:27:13  
Wow guys thanks a million ! To give you all an up date,I have finished the job but my approch was probably not Kosher .I had good oil pressure just a bad gasket so... I ended up fishing the new one peice rubber gasket thru the pan and using permatex ultra back for stickum.I never was able to completly remove the pan even though the truck was on jackstands, the tranny was lose and the engine was hoisted as far up as posible . I would not recomd this process the the faint of heart as it pushed me to the limit of my patience and I ran completly out of good cuss words and ultra black.:0 Thanks again to all.

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Hobo,NC

11-19-2006 09:06:37




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 Re: O.T. F-150 oilpan blues in reply to RoyNKy, 11-18-2006 17:27:13  
Man what a Nasty job. Raise the engine high as you kin git it, shim between the engine supports and frame mount (wood block, or rite length sockets). Drop the pan if you remove the pan drop the oil pump. It has been said one could replace the OEM one piece gasket with out even drop’in the pump but I have never had that luck, you see the silicon gasket izz so slick I kin not keep it in place while I bolt the pan up. Even with the pan off it’s a bear to install the OEM one piece gasket, slicker than snot on a door knob and no stick‘em will adhered to it. Yep they will send ya sum line up pins but they are useless also. “TIP” git the older type 4 piece cork set and use it to replace the newer one piece gasket, I have had good luck with it and did not have’ta drop the oil pump, lowered the pan, cleaned and glued the cork set up. Then your days of spit’in the gasket out the side of the pan will be gone. Theirs also a replacement of the lifter cover gasket in yer fuit’cher.
BTW if you had good O.P., stay with yer old pump.


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Paul L - Ohio

11-19-2006 06:31:58




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 Re: O.T. F-150 oilpan blues in reply to RoyNKy, 11-18-2006 17:27:13  
I never jacked the entire truck up on mine. I just left the wheels on the ground.

In a nutshell.

Removed engine mount bolts.
Removed tranny mount bolts.
Removed upper fan shroud.
Lifted front with an engine hoist.
Removed pan bolts and dropped (not removed) the pan.
Removed oil pump and let in fall in the pan.
Jacked the rear of the tranny. (don't squish anything on the rear of the engine, but it does get jacked up pretty high.
Removed oil pan (with the pump in it.

Basically reversed for reassembly. This was a 93 300 I 6 with 5 Speed.

I DID NOT:
Jack up the truck or put it on ramps.
Remove Exhaust.

Check out:
Link
They have a decent 300 Inline 6 Forum and good truck forums. There have been several writeups there.

I am about 5'8" and 200+ pounds and could fit under the front of this 2wd truck. I can't see a good reason the jack the truck up.

Paul

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GB in MT.

11-18-2006 19:24:34




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 Re: O.T. F-150 oilpan blues in reply to RoyNKy, 11-18-2006 17:27:13  
If the prior did not do the trick, you may have to turn the crank so the counter weights clear the pan edge. Hope this helps. It worked on my friend's truck. I'm sure you are going to know how when you get done. I know I did.! GB



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Paul L - Ohio

11-18-2006 19:20:12




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 Re: O.T. F-150 oilpan blues in reply to RoyNKy, 11-18-2006 17:27:13  
I just did this about 3 months ago on my 93, 300-6.

I loosened the enginemount bolts. Remove the fan shroud top piece. Hoisted the front of the engine AND jacked up the tranny. If you just hoist the front it won't work.

Loosten the pan bolts and let it fall. on the front suspension.

Loosten the oil pump and let it fall in the pan.

I ended up messing around with the jacks until I go the angle right and it slides right out. The key is to jack up the REAR JACK as high as possible without crushing anthing on the top or the enging near the firewall.

While your in there you might as well replace the oil pump. The oil pans are prone to rust through as well.

Good luck

Paul

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GB in MT.

11-18-2006 18:41:13




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 Re: O.T. F-150 oilpan blues in reply to RoyNKy, 11-18-2006 17:27:13  
How high did you raise the truck to put jack stands under it. Just running the veh. up on ramp stands won't do it. You have to have at least 1 foot before you jack the engine up and block it. Then move the jack out of the way and drop the pan, remove the the oil pick-up tube assembly. Just let it drop in the pan. Now you can drop the pan. (if you had the clearance when you started). I don't like Haynes manuals. they do,nt give ya enough info. GB

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