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Rusty

02-02-2000 08:46:37




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Does this wiring tube mount under the head nuts? If so how can you get at front center nut to torque down & Wouldn't this setup gve improper torque reading? Throttle linkage also mounts here also.




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Gary (OR)

02-04-2000 15:22:40




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 Re: Wiring tube in reply to Rusty, 02-02-2000 08:46:37  
On my 47 8N I replaced the 2 studs that hold the tube on with slightly longer studs (1/4"). Then torque the head with the tube off and sandwitch the tube between two nuts on those two studs...
I'm a big guy, broke a stud trying to do the old guy way....

Gary(OR)



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ZANE

02-03-2000 04:37:16




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 Re: Wiring tube in reply to Rusty, 02-02-2000 08:46:37  
When these tractors were designed, the home torque wrench probably didn't exist and it is doubtfull if there was even one used at the assembly plant.
My torque wrench has been rusted beyond repair for over 30 years and I do OK.
Practice makes perfect is the way I heard it.
If you gotta have a torque wrench to put the head on the N tractor you probably shouldn't be doing it anyway.A torque wrench doesn't give you any information as to the condition of the bolts or nuts or the threads in the hole or on the stud or if they need retaped or rethreaded or if you should lubricate the threads or glue them etc.
What you need to use is a lot of common sense.
About all I will give the torque wrench credit for is to keep the novice from twisting the bolt or stud off.It alone will not give an even clamping or fastening of the component being torqued.

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Rusty

02-03-2000 18:16:43




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 Re: Re: Wiring tube in reply to ZANE, 02-03-2000 04:37:16  
When I first read your response to my question it offended me & still does but not as bad. I have been repairing farm equipment for ten years & was doing logging equipment for many years before that. I talked to my boss about it & he says not to throw out the torque wrench, if he ever caught someone not useing the wrench when a torque setting is given "I would be looking for another job". My theory on torque wrenches is If over 50 ft. lbs & on heads use the wrench. I am a certified mech. & he carries 3 different certc. We farm 3000 acres & use John Deere tractors & gleaner combines. We build most of our parts & he considers having me around as hiring out the work. This saves him money & keeps me employed. I don't farm cause I'm to dumb to go to town to work in a shop I do it cause I love farmin'. I get to do a varity of things & the pay is better. The satisfaction at the end of the day is like no other job could give a man. By the way you never answered my question. I do respect your opinion & knowlege you have on these little tractors. You sound like you have been doing alot of them & for a long time. Well I must go out to the shop & see if it is warm enough to work on "Tor", my '44 2N. Seeing as I do feel I have a right to do this.

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Nolan

02-04-2000 08:08:30




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 Re: Re: Re: Wiring tube in reply to Rusty, 02-03-2000 18:16:43  
Funny thing, those torque wrenches. Every racing crew I know of uses them. So do racing builders. Aircraft crews wear them out they use them so much. Air Force will throw you in jail if you don't use one building an engine. As well torque to yields, angle torque values and such.

Tis true that a click on the torque wrench with the nut still off the surface isn't truly torqued. But then, a decent mechanic would have fixed those threads, and not simply cranked away at the nut.

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STUMP PULLER

02-03-2000 18:46:37




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 Re: Re: Re: Wiring tube in reply to Rusty, 02-03-2000 18:16:43  
AS THE GREAT SIR THOMPSON SAID MANY YEARS AGO, IF YOU CAN MEASURE SOMETHING YOU KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT IT.



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