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Paul Leske

11-20-2006 12:39:32




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I am looking into building some log homes in my area to sell and I was wondering if anyone on this board has any experiences to share? I am investigating kits and am looking for the advice of others who have built log structures, from kits or otherwise.

I dont wnat to start a long thread here and annoy folks so please shoot me an email.

Thanks.
Paul




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Paul Leske

11-21-2006 17:13:36




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 Re: Way OT: Log Homes in reply to Paul Leske, 11-20-2006 12:39:32  
Thanks guys for all the comments. I still have a lot of research left but it is a process. I do have local Amish guys that have log experience and there are some others in the area (WI) that have been building log homes for resale. It is always good to talk to others that have done it.



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Beargap

11-21-2006 03:58:11




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 Re: Way OT: Log Homes in reply to Paul Leske, 11-20-2006 12:39:32  
There is one company that has found the answer to log home rot and fire hazards. They actually build the logs in concrete molds (see link). I never would have imagined that some of these big homes are NOT logs! I have been working with this company on another project and have been impressed with what they are selling.

=Vic=
Beargap, PA

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RockyMO

11-20-2006 20:18:30




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 Re: Way OT: Log Homes in reply to Paul Leske, 11-20-2006 12:39:32  
Lets try this pictur posting again.

Rocky in MO


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Paul Schultz

11-20-2006 20:11:36




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 Re: Way OT: Log Homes in reply to Paul Leske, 11-20-2006 12:39:32  
We'll be starting our log home building project in the next 1-2 months. We should get our building permit this week. After a lot of research we went with a log kit. We went with Tennessee Log Homes. Issues with rot as referred to below is not an issue. There is some increased upkeep with log stain and preservative coatings. But, many designs incorporate larger overhangs and covered porches to give further protection from the sun and rain. Finding an experienced log home builder is a significant step toward successful construction.

Good luck. Research is the key in any major endeavor such as this.

Paul.

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Paul Leske

11-21-2006 18:12:34




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 Re: Way OT: Log Homes in reply to Paul Schultz, 11-20-2006 20:11:36  
So what made you pick that company over all others?



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Paul Schultz

11-21-2006 18:34:11




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 Re: Way OT: Log Homes in reply to Paul Leske, 11-21-2006 18:12:34  
Multiple factors. We went to Log Home shows. Read up on the issues in the trade magazines. Went to some model homes in the area for various log home kit companies. In the end it was a combination of reputation, referrals, design, and comfort with the local builder.

But, many log home providers were also good in our evaluation. They should be a member of the Log Home Council. And, there is a log grading system. The Log Home company should participate in this grading system. It ensures quality of the product.

In almost all of the log home magazines there are plenty of ads for log home kit providers. There are also adds for direct log providers.

Good luck,

Paul.

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Paul Leske

11-21-2006 18:53:54




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 Re: Way OT: Log Homes in reply to Paul Schultz, 11-21-2006 18:34:11  
Thanks for the tips. Two of the three log home dealers in my area (WI) are listed on the log homes council website. I prefer to shop locally but want to investigate all and keep an open mind.



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RockyMO

11-20-2006 19:58:40




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 Re: Way OT: Log Homes in reply to Paul Leske, 11-20-2006 12:39:32  
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I picked up an ax a few years back and built one the old fashioned way. I have lots of tips on do's and dont's. As always my email is open if you are interested in what I have learned. I am once again going to attempt posting pics but haven't had much luck doing this in the past.

Rocky in MO

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Paul Leske

11-21-2006 17:07:20




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 Re: Way OT: Log Homes in reply to RockyMO, 11-20-2006 19:58:40  
Please eamail the picture to kaefer@ameritech.net as it didn't show here. I would love to hear about your experiences.

Thanks.
Paul



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Dave(Tx)

11-20-2006 16:02:30




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 Re: Way OT: Log Homes in reply to Paul Leske, 11-20-2006 12:39:32  
I have a timber contract with a gentleman that is building log cabins out of Cedar. Haven't seen one yet and kind of wonder how it will go esp since I do know of some people who are allergic to Cedar. I could give you his e-mail if you have any questions. I have included mine.



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Stumpalump

11-20-2006 15:34:25




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 Re: Way OT: Log Homes in reply to Paul Leske, 11-20-2006 12:39:32  
My Dad built a Lindel kit home. The cost of all the extras made it a bad deal. The basic structure is only half the cost and you have to put it together. Try a local builder and see what it will take to build what you want and compare. The local guy will know what materials are a good deal in your area and this will even out the cost of the kit.



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Wyo

11-20-2006 14:45:01




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 Re: Way OT: Log Homes in reply to Paul Leske, 11-20-2006 12:39:32  
I have been around a few and the one piece of advice I would give is to use flex tubing for your electrical wiring and put a pull string in each one. That way you can pull an additional wire without too much trouble. There are always additional circuits, switches, appliances, etc. that are not thought of until after the logs are up. I have a friend right now that did not pull enough wires to operate his fan/light independently so he will have to go with remote.

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hvw

11-20-2006 14:23:39




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 Re: Way OT: Log Homes in reply to Paul Leske, 11-20-2006 12:39:32  
This isn't an email but it is my 0.02 worth. Around here in Georgia I think you'd be hard put to get rid of a speculative log home over a traditional stick built. No matter how beautiful they may be. That's likely because of folks preconceived notion about insects, maintenance and so forth. It's been tried here a few times in the past and never really worked out. I'd recommend you speak to a couple of appraisers in your area and get their thoughts on it and even talk to a mortgage lender to see how receptive they'd be. I'd go slow for sure.

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Paul Leske

11-21-2006 19:09:25




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 Re: Way OT: Log Homes in reply to hvw, 11-20-2006 14:23:39  
I think the market is a bit different in WI than GA. I am half way between Chicago and Minneapolis so my target market would be urban buyers looking for weekend getaways or retirement homes. Log homes do well for that segment. Folks dig that "northwoods look". We don't really have a termite problem up here either.

That picture that you submitted of that settlement cabin is fantastic. I know what you mean about old growth wood. Some of the structure in my old farmhouse and barn is even hard to put a nail into.

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Ultradog MN

11-20-2006 15:26:37




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 Re: Way OT: Log Homes in reply to hvw, 11-20-2006 14:23:39  
My cousins dreamed about building their retirement home for a long time. It was going to be log.
Then one day they were looking through a couple of magazines at log home plans and it dawned on them that just about every other advertisement in the whole magazine was for rot repair and/or preventative measures. It convinced them then and there that they were going to build a stick framed home.
On the other hand, there is one going up just across the highway from my hunting land. It is a square log type - not round logs. It sure is pretty and the owner IS building it to resell.
It is built on a slab with the new in-floor water heat.

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hvw

11-20-2006 15:32:49




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 Re: Way OT: Log Homes in reply to Ultradog MN, 11-20-2006 15:26:37  
I know that around here part of the problem is the quality of the wood. The very old log homes in Ga were built with heart pine, I think it was called hard pine in the old days, and it's no longer readily available. When you do find it the cost is more than walnut. I have an old sharecroppers cabin built with rough sawn heart pine planks and no bug can even dent it.



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hvw

11-20-2006 14:44:38




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 On the other hand... in reply to hvw, 11-20-2006 14:23:39  
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this one has survived for over 200 years with only sketchy maintenance.



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FarmerDawn

11-20-2006 16:10:32




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 Re: On the other hand... in reply to hvw, 11-20-2006 14:44:38  
Look at that. Some things are just darned near perfect, aren't they? It's too bad we've used up all the really good timber that used to exist. It makes you wonder how it was then. What a beautiful cabin! --Dawn



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gahorN

11-21-2006 07:01:37




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 Re: On the other hand... in reply to FarmerDawn, 11-20-2006 16:10:32  
Yeah. Andy Jackson sent the army and made all the natives walk all the way to that hell-hole/dust-bowl Oklahoma, or that thing would'a been rightfully burnt to the groun'. Goes to show ya'... be nice to the guvmint politicians and they'll be ruinous to you! ;Þ



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