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gringo

12-12-2006 17:03:26

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I have noticed this board sure runs good and smooth since Dell has not been posting all his gibberish with his condesending attitude. No one is fighting, name calling, or trying to cause problems. Do you see my point? DELL, If you read this, DON'T COME BACK. gringo

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Rexalot

12-14-2006 08:08:47

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Re: Dell and this board in reply to gringo, 12-12-2006 17:03:26

What is with this forum? It seems as of late all that anyone can do is poke at or pick on long standing members. Cowman's gone, now there are those turning on Dell.

If you don't like it, don't read it...

I was "new" here once to. Dell gave me advice, never once making me feel inferior. I solicited for an answer, I got one and it helped me out.

Gring is loco... you can go now.

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Lytemup

12-13-2006 17:12:28

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Re: Dell and this board in reply to gringo, 12-12-2006 17:03:26

It is impossible to defeat an ignorant man in argument. Therefor I will not respond. Thanks for all your help Dell.

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Jim In MI

12-13-2006 15:29:55

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Re: Dell and this board in reply to gringo, 12-12-2006 17:03:26

Dell has helped me with every single question I have ever posted on this board, so foo to you.

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Sean (TX)

12-13-2006 15:11:36

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Get lost gringo in reply to gringo, 12-12-2006 17:03:26

Some people just like to stir things up. Looks like gringo has...I say the gringo should get lost...

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Hobo,NC

12-13-2006 10:48:44

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Re: Dell and this board in reply to gringo, 12-12-2006 17:03:26

Sure hate to mess up yer party sooooo would you please "Pass Me The Grey Poupon".

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Hoot

12-13-2006 10:20:13

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Re: Dell and this board in reply to gringo, 12-12-2006 17:03:26

Sorry, I gotta weigh in here in favor of DELL. I don't read this every day, but have off and on for a number of years and I can't recall ever seeing anything that DELL wrote that was offensive or insulting. I always appreciate his irreverence and sense of humor.
Come on back DELL. Most of us miss you!

Hoot

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David Snipes

12-13-2006 07:40:13

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Re: Dell and this board in reply to gringo, 12-12-2006 17:03:26

Dell may be a very nice guy; I don't know him. I do find his writing style here to be offensive and rude, especially to a newcomer, which I recently was. Advice does not have to be given in a sarcastic and rude manner. I quit reading Dell's posts due to his style and that is unfortunate because he has a lot of knowledge that can help people. I would welcome Dell's return if he improved his mannerisms.

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Dave Sherburne NY

12-13-2006 07:03:05

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Re: Dell and this board in reply to gringo, 12-12-2006 17:03:26

I will say that DELL"s answers are right on, BUT
I prefer a straight answer I don"t hve to decipher.

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Dave(TX)

12-13-2006 06:38:10

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Re: Dell and this board in reply to gringo, 12-12-2006 17:03:26

I don't post here on the N Board much since finishing up restoring my 1950 8N. However YT is in my favorites and opens on the N board so I usually read a few posts before moving on to the OT board.

I can tell you that Dell, along with others, was a great asset for me in my project. There were a lot of times I would have had to of taken my tractor to a shop to repair something that I wound up doing my self thanks to the good people on this board.

No offense Mr. Gringo but if a vote was taken on who should leave - you or Dell - I know where the good money would bet. My advice is if you find him or anyone else irritating just don't bother reading their posts.

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Gregg E

12-13-2006 06:33:56

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Re: Dell and this board in reply to gringo, 12-12-2006 17:03:26

Cant we all just get along..... ....
Take your tractor advise anyway you can get it, I do.

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jimNCal

12-13-2006 06:23:32

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Re: Dell and this board in reply to gringo, 12-12-2006 17:03:26

As someone who HAS actually MET Dell and hosted him in my home, I feel qualified to tell you that your assessment of him is @ss-backwards. He MAY not understand all of the ins and outs of computer language and protocall BUT, he is as gracious and socialable a person as you'd ever want at your table.

I'd take Dell ANY day over 10 of your sort.

Come to think of it, I've not met ANY member of this board in person that didn't INCREASE my liking for them.

Even your 'handle' speaks to your narrowness of mind.

How about YOU go instead?

jim

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Jim West TN

12-13-2006 05:51:38

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Re: Dell and this board in reply to gringo, 12-12-2006 17:03:26

Looks like Houston is growing them without gonads. Don't let the door hit you in the rear end on the way out Gringo.

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Let's Move ON, class..joh

12-13-2006 05:56:19

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Re: Dell and this board in reply to Jim West TN, 12-13-2006 05:51:38

lET'S MOVE ON, What do ya say?

John,PA

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DELL, Hurry Back..John,PA

12-13-2006 05:05:45

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Re: Dell and this board in reply to gringo, 12-12-2006 17:03:26

SOUNDS LIKE GRINGO WANTS YOUR "JOB"..

John,PA

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monomechanical

12-13-2006 05:16:48

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JA DOCH in reply to DELL, Hurry Back..John,PA, 12-13-2006 05:05:45

I think Dell is using a pseudonym "gringo" wanting to know if we really want him back.

JA DOCH, BESTIMMT!!!!! n hurry the hail up.

I want to know which way the electrons spin in an electrical current, when I crank the starter on my 6 volt front mounted can coil 8n, at 22 degrees fahrenheit. Right or left?

mono

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Depends..John,PA

12-13-2006 05:32:10

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Re: JA DOCH in reply to monomechanical, 12-13-2006 05:16:48

If'n your electrons are NORTH of the equator, they will spin CW. CCW in'N SOUTH of the equator.

This is known as "CORIOLIS" effect.

However, be known that I have been polar-dearranged enough years ago with having a few RMI's.

HTH John,PA

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monomechanical

12-13-2006 06:29:35

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Re: JA DOCH in reply to Depends..John,PA, 12-13-2006 05:32:10

I'll take your word for it on the Coriolis effect, but not if you're from Kittaning. If you're from Kittaning I'd like some electron level evidence; e.g. a video.

mono, one time ford city guy.

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Well..John,PA

12-13-2006 14:40:20

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Re: JA DOCH in reply to monomechanical, 12-13-2006 06:29:35

I used to be "proud" to say that I am from Gettysburg.

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Dan

12-13-2006 04:58:29

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Here we go again in reply to gringo, 12-12-2006 17:03:26

Here we go again - usually pops up about once every six months or so. Dell is indeed an asset to this board. That said - I don't much like his method of delivery on help. Not too many people like to be a new owner of an antique tractor and when they find this great board to post a question on a problem they are having, it is a good chance they will basically be called an idiot if Dell replies. NOBODY likes to be belittled. I believe the exact same help could be delievered in a much more newbie freindly format as to not run off new blood to this forum.

Me and Dell have had our spats in the past (he basically called me an idiot for not knowing something that should be "intuitively obvious" for any Electrical Engineer - which I am not, and I don't put up with that kind of treatment) - and no, his reply was not appreciated. I know he helps a lot of people here, but most of the people he helps are the readers of posts where guys ask questions and get a tongue lashing from Dell - they are not the recipients of the verbal abuse, just the bystander. There are plenty of others who will help in a more respectful manner. I would rather have 10 guys who kinda know an issue help me politely, than one who is a guru who talks to you like an abusive father.

Before any Dell lovers get upset at my post - this is JUST MY OPINION - like everyone is entitled to. I do like the diversity of this board, and understand it takes all kinds of personalities to make a online community. However, we do not need to run off new blood to this hobby giving them a bad taste of this site and antique tractor folks in general - and I have seen it happen personally with several due to Dell's replies over the years I have been here. I try my best to help everyone in a friendly manner, even though I don't know as much as Dell or several others here.

I don't dislike Dell as a person - but you never see me ask directly for his help neither, and he rarely replies to my posts as well. There are way to many other knowledgable people I can get good advice from like I have in the years since our spat.

Just my $.02,
Dan

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Dave2n

12-13-2006 04:53:07

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Re: Dell and this board in reply to gringo, 12-12-2006 17:03:26

Sounds like you've got too much time on your hands.

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nitebass9n

12-13-2006 04:48:15

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Re: Dell and this board in reply to gringo, 12-12-2006 17:03:26

I've never heard DELL attack anyone like this guy is doing. Don't worry, he's not one of us. Dell has helped out namy people that needed some quick info. Wait til he gets back a duke it out in person like a man. Dale in VA.

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89ciera

12-13-2006 04:13:29

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Re: Dell and this board in reply to gringo, 12-12-2006 17:03:26

I do as a few recommend. I just don't open Dell's posts. They're not written in English so it takes to long to decipher what is written. There's so many others that do use English and make things easy to read why bother with a post that is next to impossible to read?

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1953 Jubilee

12-13-2006 02:31:52

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Re: Dell and this board in reply to gringo, 12-12-2006 17:03:26

With all due respect Gringo, Dell helps--its free speech and he has a way of putting things in perspective that is the unvarnished truth. So, when looking at ground truth--don't see where you have helped as much as he has--at least running your name through the search engine. If you don't like it, exercise your right to go somewhere else.

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duey

12-12-2006 21:51:16

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Re: Dell and this board in reply to gringo, 12-12-2006 17:03:26

Well, there, see how you are! Looks like you have your own opinion. . . just like everybody else. And you get to post it! And it is OT, to boot. I guess you are as special as the rest of us.

Is this a great forum or WHAT??! Merry Christmas!

duey

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Bill(BC)

12-12-2006 21:38:03

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Let's Stir It Up in reply to gringo, 12-12-2006 17:03:26

Well Gringo,

Well I suppose you could be Congratulated for stirring things up on a otherwise quiet evening.
Like everyone else & (I suspect you as well) look forward to Dell's replies!
Not only Dell but everyone on this board who provides us with such good information and entertainment.

Just curious if indeed you are the same person who last posted in 2001.

Anyway let's hope Dell remains a good fellow and that Santa brings him a new computer or at the very least a new operating system, so he can be back online ASAP.

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Jimmyjack

12-12-2006 21:14:45

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Re: Dell and this board in reply to gringo, 12-12-2006 17:03:26

Gringo is a weak fish that is afraid to use his real ID, because he knows he is in the minority.

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popbreed

12-12-2006 20:28:11

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Re: Dell and this board in reply to gringo, 12-12-2006 17:03:26

Dell adds a termendous amount of info and expertize to this forum AND he adds character. Yes at times he is sarcastic but who cares? That is just Dell. If he is sarcastic to you, you can be sarcastic back and I doubt he cares. JUST DO NOT GET PERSONAL.

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GAJIM

12-12-2006 20:25:42

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Re: Dell and this board in reply to gringo, 12-12-2006 17:03:26

Gringo: The only cause or source of fighting, name calling, or trying to cause problems that I can remember has originated from individuals like you. If you don't like the way Dell responds to questions, don't read them. As for me, when I was a newbie, Dell was most helpful with solving my N problems and I personally enjoyt his style. It's a better board with him for sure. Why don't you try to take the high road for a change? GA Jim

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8nstyle

12-12-2006 20:18:16

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Re: Dell and this board in reply to gringo, 12-12-2006 17:03:26

I don"t want to say anything negative so here"s my response.

DELL - KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK. You are a major reason that I check this forum frequently. Thanks.

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old 9

12-12-2006 20:13:10

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Re: Dell and this board in reply to gringo, 12-12-2006 17:03:26

When I first started reading this board, I did not like(appreciate)some of the posters. Hey that is the way they are.. Let he who is "perfect"cast the first stone, if YOU are not "perfect" sign OFF , remove this site from your Favorites,and go your own way , simple, very simple. bye

Dell supporter

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Autoxman

12-12-2006 20:00:54

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Re: Gringo hates sarcasm in reply to gringo, 12-12-2006 17:03:26

What I have read from your posts is negativity towards Dell, and ONLY NEGATIVITY towards Dell! Is this necessary??? What I have read from Dell's posts is helpful information and guidance for people he doesn't even know except through this forum, with some crotchety sarcasm that I read as friendly ribbing. If you don't like how we are, go slam someone on the anger management forum.

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ericlb

12-12-2006 19:59:20

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Re: Dell and this board in reply to gringo, 12-12-2006 17:03:26

i just hate to read this kind if stuff, this is a very nice board and its members have knowledge on almost any topic, we dont need to use it to cut down one of our best sorces of help, Dell is a incredibily knowledgebal guy and has helped almost all who visit this board,myself included, i enjoy the way he delivers his posts too, if you dont like his posts i hope you at least have enough brains to not open them,

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I see yer problem...

12-12-2006 19:39:54

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Re: Dell and this board in reply to gringo, 12-12-2006 17:03:26

It's your float, it don't go all the way to the top, matter of fact, it's stuck down on the bottom in all that sludge. And you got waaaay to much resistance there too, causes your sparkies to be a little dull. And your sideways thinkin' is backa$$wards too, you got it confused with the long angle loose screw in the head, you might want to back it off a ways, you gots it wound waaay too tight. Get ya a new attitude/sense-o-humor if ya can, 10 bucks at walmart-CHEAP! ron,ar-your self appointed not-yet-a-rocket scientist and part time head shrink/jack of all trades-master of many.

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JackL

12-12-2006 19:37:19

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Re: Dell and this board in reply to gringo, 12-12-2006 17:03:26

I get a kick out of Dell's responses. It's kind of like R.Lee Emry on the Discovery channel's "Mail Call" when he would shout " Who you calling maggot?".

I'm not concerned with how the information is delivered just it's accuracy.

Jack

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souNdguy

12-13-2006 06:13:08

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Re: Dell and this board in reply to JackL, 12-12-2006 19:37:19

I kinda have to agree fully with that.. I'd rather have correct info, even if it 'costs' me a bit.. than to get wrong info.. and perhaps damage a part that is no longer available.

Been there, done that... learned to do it the right way the 2nd time on another NOS part.. etc.

Soundguy

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1chano

12-12-2006 19:36:02

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Re: Dell and this board in reply to gringo, 12-12-2006 17:03:26

If Dell is responding to you and you find that his response is offensive just let him know, but don't do what you are doing now by posting like this. We all learn from others and Dell say's things in his manner. He is not perfect just as you and I. But atleast he's trying to help out people that are in search of answers. This is an awesome board lets keep it frendly.

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John Diercks

12-12-2006 19:23:23

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Re: Dell and this board in reply to gringo, 12-12-2006 17:03:26

can't wait for Dell's return! Those who he offends may not be intelligent enough to understand subtle humor and caustic but hilarious hubris

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SAILOR NJ

12-12-2006 19:09:05

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MESSAGE FOR GRINGO in reply to gringo, 12-12-2006 17:03:26

SHUT UP !!!!! !!!!! !

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Dunk

12-12-2006 18:11:43

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Re: Dell and this board in reply to gringo, 12-12-2006 17:03:26

What would be out there is if gringo turned out to be Dell.

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Cargocult

12-12-2006 18:07:58

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Re: Dell and this board in reply to gringo, 12-12-2006 17:03:26

Well, when u have posted as much good useful stuff as Dell, then maybe u will be able to criticise him!I don't seem to remember u postin much here! If u don't like Dell, maybe u should go away. Simple, eh??

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Stumpalump

12-12-2006 18:05:44

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Re: Dell and this board in reply to gringo, 12-12-2006 17:03:26

Heck it's folks like Dell that keep me comming back. Remember that this is called a discussion forum and it's OK to add your two cents. People like you and Dell make it work.

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Ken S.

12-12-2006 18:02:59

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Re: Dell and this board in reply to gringo, 12-12-2006 17:03:26

Gringo, Regardless of his "attitude",Dell has helped many, many folks over the many years of posting here, and a quick search of the archives shows your contribution to this forum has been ZERO! Seems to me your opinion should be given an equal amount of consideration.

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Barry in ON

12-12-2006 17:49:07

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Re: Dell and this board in reply to gringo, 12-12-2006 17:03:26

"No one is fighting, name calling, or trying to cause problems. Do you see my point?"

And your point is? If the above statement is true why did you start this thread? Dell is Dell and you are you. Let's just get along. Oh, by the way I wonder if you can't spell condescending do you really understand what it means?
Cheers,
Barry

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Paul in MN

12-12-2006 17:42:29

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Re: Dell and this board in reply to gringo, 12-12-2006 17:03:26

Mr Gringo,

I think that you exhibit incredibly immature social skills, somewhat on the level of needing professional help. Use your Christmas present money to begin a program with a good psychiatrist, it will probably pay much bigger dividends than some coveted N parts or tools.

As you must be well aware, we all have some idiosyncracies that bother others. But most importantly, lets judge each other by the good things we do, and not by something that bothers us.

As for DELL, I see a very bright man who has shown incredible patience in helping others. I wish that I (or you) could stand on those same credentials!

Paul in MN

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old

12-12-2006 17:36:27

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Re: Dell and this board in reply to gringo, 12-12-2006 17:03:26

There are times I don't like the way Dell says something but, hes almost always right when it comes to telling a person the problem. You sort of have to take what he says like you would take what a drill sargent says and over look the ruff spots. I do think some one that knows what he does though shouldn't have the computer problem he does since he seems to know the ins and outs of elecity

Hobby farm

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blitz

12-12-2006 17:35:20

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Re: Dell and this board in reply to gringo, 12-12-2006 17:03:26

gringo, that's 2 anti-Dell post in 2 days ....wasn't one enough stirring of the pot? or do you just require more attention than the first one brought you?? caretaker are you that up on the financial goings on of this site to make such a statement? this place is for discussing tractors and such, not your private bashing post. If you don't like Dell then don't read his posts and just be quiet so others make up there own minds on who the trouble makers are.

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Bruce (VA)

12-12-2006 17:29:09

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Re: Dell and this board in reply to gringo, 12-12-2006 17:03:26

If you do not like what Dell has to say, or how he says it, then do not read his posts. All I can figure is that folks who find him offensive never played HS sports, never served in the military, never worked in an all male enviroment, and generally have some inate problem with basic male bluntness.

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ZANE

12-12-2006 17:23:59

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Re: Dell and this board in reply to gringo, 12-12-2006 17:03:26

Now we all know what being really rude is!

Your attitude.

Zane

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Caretaker

12-12-2006 17:16:56

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Re: Dell and this board in reply to gringo, 12-12-2006 17:03:26

I have to agree. This board is a much more pleasant place without Dell and his attitude.

Of course, as much as he contributes financially you'll never see him reprimanded by Kim.

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vtscott

12-12-2006 17:12:12

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Re: Dell and this board in reply to gringo, 12-12-2006 17:03:26

No, I do not see your point. You think "DELL, If you read this, DON"T COME BACK." are not fighting words?

If you do not like what Dell has to say, do not read it, simple eh?

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FarmerDawn

12-12-2006 17:09:26

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Re: Dell and this board in reply to gringo, 12-12-2006 17:03:26

"No one is fighting, name calling, or trying to cause problems."

You are.

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RP-40-9n

12-12-2006 17:52:37

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Re: Dell and this board in reply to FarmerDawn, 12-12-2006 17:09:26

i find this board to be a pretty great place, to get some great advice, from some great people, and did i mention-its freeeee ee- thanks to all and that includes dell.RP

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reddogge

12-13-2006 09:25:06

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Re: Dell and this board in reply to RP-40-9n, 12-12-2006 17:52:37

I think gringo to be a troll. Don't feed the troll.

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