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Realtech

01-07-2007 19:12:05

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Hey fellers, on my '50 8N, I want to remove my draincock located in front of the starter. The wings just spin on the threaded sleeve, it wont open. I think it is brass by the way the rounded shoulders look after I tried to loosen it. I also tried a little heat from a propane torch. No move. Any good ideas? I would like to open it to drain the block better.
Thanks for any assistance.

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David Snipes

01-08-2007 12:53:39

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Re: Draincock removal in reply to Realtech, 01-07-2007 19:12:05

I removed both the block and radiator draincocks and plumbed in a tank engine block heater. It works quite well. To drain the coolant, I just removed the tank heater hose.

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RoNofohio

01-08-2007 06:00:57

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Re: Draincock removal in reply to Realtech, 01-07-2007 19:12:05

When you replace the valve, just use a brass plug. Works better, because of the larger opening, drains better, better chance of not getting stopped by gunk and easier to remove. Only cost about .50 at any hardware...JMHO..Ron

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K.LaRue-VA

01-08-2007 07:16:27

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Re: Draincock removal in reply to RoNofohio, 01-08-2007 06:00:57

The brass plug worked for me and is a lot stronger than that hollow drain cock fitting. I ran a pipe tap into my block to make sure the threads were clean and put a little plumbers tape on the plug.

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RoNofohio

01-08-2007 09:05:52

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Re: Draincock removal in reply to K.LaRue-VA, 01-08-2007 07:16:27

I replaced the drain cock on my radiator with a brass plug several years ago. Works much better than the valve. Just remove with a box-end wrench and draining the radiator is a 1-minute job. Works really well. But, I sometimes wonder why Ford didn't just do that initially. The plugs were available and cheaper. I don't think that there is any greater risk of getting burned cause with the valve, you are using fingers also..Ron

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K.LaRue-VA

01-08-2007 12:00:33

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Re: Draincock removal in reply to RoNofohio, 01-08-2007 09:05:52

And why didnt Ford put an extention on it so the antifreeze will go in a bucket instead of all over everything? The valve on my radiator might not have been original but there was no way to attach a hose to it.

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Dan hill

01-08-2007 14:31:51

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Re: Draincock removal in reply to K.LaRue-VA, 01-08-2007 12:00:33

If you use one with an extension on an 8n radiator drain the axle comes close to breaking the drain off.

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dan hill

01-08-2007 03:02:50

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Re: Draincock removal in reply to Realtech, 01-07-2007 19:12:05

Solder the wing to the sleeve.Save 5.00 for gas.I fixed them when new one cost 1.25.I keep new ones on hand.

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RAGinTn.

01-07-2007 20:42:09

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Re: Draincock removal in reply to Realtech, 01-07-2007 19:12:05

when i got at mine the ears broke right off an then was able to turn ti out with a wrench it was tight but it didn't breakoff in the block if it does ide try an easy out it allready is hollow so you woodn't even have t drill it i don't think, I orderd some freshies they come 2 in a pack so ya mayas well get at yer rad to if yer all drained anyway, may save you time strugglin in the futer

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Stumpalump

01-07-2007 20:40:06

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Re: Draincock removal in reply to Realtech, 01-07-2007 19:12:05

Just in case you havent run into this. Some of these are really just a valve with the drain being the hole between the wings. The valve gets open but no water flows till you clean the rust and corosion from the hole. Lots of marine engines freeze ever year because the valve gets open and since no water flows it is wrongly assumed the block has no water in it. Is yours just clogged or is the valve/draincock toast?

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FarmerDawn

01-07-2007 21:12:25

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Re: Draincock removal in reply to Stumpalump, 01-07-2007 20:40:06

You know, I had forgotten this but you're right, Stumpalump! I had to poke a thin wire into mine (both this one and the one under the radiator) before they would drain. They were opened, but clogged shut with stuff. Good memory!!! --Dawn

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Tom N MS

01-07-2007 19:53:50

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Re: Draincock removal in reply to Realtech, 01-07-2007 19:12:05

Thry make it sound so easy don't they? I would also like to replace mine but I know what would happen. It will twist off flush with the block then I will be in for drilling and trying to pick out the threads without damaging the hole in the engine.

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Bob

01-07-2007 21:11:13

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Re: Draincock removal in reply to Tom N MS, 01-07-2007 19:53:50

Oh, good heavens, Tom, you've repaired a LOT tougher things than replacing a draincock!

Get a good grip on the stupid thing, and remove it!

(There's only about a 10% chance it will break off, and brass is pretty easy to chip out of cast iron, if worse comes to worse!)

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Tom N MS

01-08-2007 03:46:48

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Re: Draincock removal in reply to Bob, 01-07-2007 21:11:13

10% equals 100% for Tom. But that is on my list when it gets warm enough to do things again. Also replacing my hyd. safety valve and might have to go back into the hyd. cylinder. Thanks for the encouragement.

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Dan

01-07-2007 19:50:58

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Re: Draincock removal in reply to Realtech, 01-07-2007 19:12:05

Pull the wings straight off with a pair of pliers, then get a socket on the base and unscrew it.

Dan

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wayne2

01-07-2007 19:21:30

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Re: Draincock removal in reply to Realtech, 01-07-2007 19:12:05

If anything like garden faucet-vice grips-please be careful! Wayne

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old 9

01-07-2007 19:21:00

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Re: Draincock removal in reply to Realtech, 01-07-2007 19:12:05

Just remove it from block. Replace $5.00 cheap. I use teflon tape when replacing. Any auto store or hardware will have them. Joe

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Realtech

01-08-2007 18:45:44

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Re: Draincock removal in reply to old 9, 01-07-2007 19:21:00

Okay guys and lady too. Thanks for the input. When it gets where I have the time, I now have few new ideas to try to tackle the job. Yall are great. Keep up the great posting.

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