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frozen PTO engagement lever

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andyinchville

01-07-2007 21:26:26




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Hi All,

I have a 1951 ford 8n tractor that worked fine about a year ago.....we haven"t had to use it for about 9 months (sits outside....no shed)...it started and ran fine BUT we could not move the lever to engage the PTO what could cause this?....Is there an easy fix....could the clutch adjustment have something to do with this (the clutch seems fine....holds well but does tend to engage a little higher on the top of the pedal travel (possibly could use a slight adjustment to grab a little earlier but I don;t think it slips)...Also, would spraying PB or WWD 40 where the lever goes into the tractor help?....If we removed the bolts around the lever and attempted to remove the plate where the lever come out will gear fluid run out or is the level not that high?
(all fluids look OK and are at the proper levels). Thanks in advance for any and all help. Andrew

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Jim.UT

01-08-2007 20:30:49




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 Re: frozen PTO engagement lever in reply to andyinchville, 01-07-2007 21:26:26  
I don't know how cold it is where you live, but the 9N I'm taking apart had 1" of ice frozen in the bottom of the hydraulic compartment. Maybe if you've gotten moisture inside your tractor (from a leaky shifter boot) you could be frozen up. Apply some gentle heat and see if it thaws out.



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old

01-08-2007 11:15:43




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 Re: frozen PTO engagement lever in reply to andyinchville, 01-07-2007 21:26:26  
I got in a 2N and a 9N that on both of them you coudn't shift the tranny into any gears but after letting them run for 30 minutes or so I was able to use one then another and then another gear. You may find if you let it run for a while that you will be able to shift it. Both the ehat that builds up in the tranny and the oil flying around inside my just do the trick and your problem maybe a little rust on the coulper, that is if your lucky

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ZANE

01-08-2007 06:28:24




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 Re: frozen PTO engagement lever in reply to andyinchville, 01-07-2007 21:26:26  
Probably the sliding coupling is stuck on the PTO shaft. The shifter and inspection plate need to be removed and the sliding coupling moved toward the disengaged position. You can determine this by observing which way the shifter finger moves when the lever is moved forward whole out of the tractor. I am thinking it needs to move toward the back of the tractor and more onto the PTO shaft to disengage the coupling splines. I have had some luck using a bar to pry the coupling towards the back of the tractor but be careful that you do not bend or damage the shifter fork that will be engaged with the sliding coupling.It is possible it is rusted in place and it is possible the PTO shaft is slightly twisted. This is more probabal if the PTO has been replace by an aftermarket PTO shaft because they are a lot softer metal than the original and more prone to twisting.

Zane
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Bob

01-07-2007 21:44:02




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 Re: frozen PTO engagement lever in reply to andyinchville, 01-07-2007 21:26:26  
Try to free the lever with PB Blaster or KROIL.

If you DO need to remove the lever/cover, the oil will only be up the the bottom bolt holes, or a little above. Simply parking the tractor so the lever side is a couple of inches higher will ensure NO oil loss.

After freeing it up, be SURE the lever engages with the PTO shift mechanism inside the housing, as you re-install the lever/cover unit.

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Russ SoCal

01-07-2007 22:03:55




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 Re: frozen PTO engagement lever in reply to Bob, 01-07-2007 21:44:02  
It'll look like this. The "foot" on part 720 goes in between the raised rings on this (aft) end of part 719.
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