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ozbo

01-09-2007 17:39:23




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I"ve been battling with this Jubilee I bought a couple of months ago which had set up for 14 years under an open shed. I knew it was chocked full and rusted up but I didn"t know how bad. Good news... Motor was not locked and I got 40 # of oil pressure just trying to crank it. Worst part was the clutch is stuck tighter than a drum. After replacing all electrical, cleaning the carb with everything under the sun, and cleaning the gas tank,I finally got it to fire and run this week. Now to try to break the clutch loose.... At a fast idle I shoved it into first gear and ripped away. I purposely bumped into this tree and that tree but no luck. Ii rode up and down the street hitting the brakes with no luck. As I was backing up and going between my beautiful red Silverado and the shrubbery,I miss judged and found myself backing right into the truck. Couldn"t switch it off in time and hit the truck"s front bumper with the right rear tire. She thankfully stalled out and no damage to the truck. And guess what?.....the clutch broke loose! Just goes to show...you never can tell. oz

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JPatton

01-10-2007 20:25:06




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 Re: Just goes to show.... in reply to ozbo, 01-09-2007 17:39:23  
Yeah - I guess just about anyone that has been around the critters for very long has a story like that. Here is mine. Dad bought a Jubilee new in '54. It is a '53 but was a demo at the dealer. Had a loader put on before he brought her home. About 10 years ago, my brother, who worked in a paint shop at the time, decided to clean her up and give her a new coat of paint. He did a relly nice job but it took longer than he thought it would (like most projects I get involved with). Any way when he went to start it after several months, it would not do anything. He thought it was the starter switch so he put a push button switch and an automotive solenoid on. Now most of you already know what happened next. He was sitting on the tractor with the clutch depressed but the shift lever was in reverse. The tractor started and since it was backed in the garage, he proceeded to back through the front wall of the garage. Just about the time it broke through the wall, he jerked it out of reverse and got it into a forward gear. The garage door was closed and his pickup was on the driveway outside. Remember, I said the tractor had a loader on it since it was new? Well that perfect grill now has 2 places that it aint so perfect anymore and he had to put up an new garage door. He had to split the tractor to get the clutch free. 5 years later, I got the tractor from my dad and promptly fixed the starting circuit and reinstalled the loader. It took me a while to figure out what he had done with the solenoid and wiring, but it is back to the way it should be. By the way, it still has the original clutch as well as the dents in the grill.

J

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Ohio Bill

01-10-2007 08:39:55




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 Re: Just goes to show.... in reply to ozbo, 01-09-2007 17:39:23  
If you are trying to free a stuck clutch ALWAYS put the transmission in the highest gear then start engine,hold clutch pedal down and hit brakes. On old fords with no brakes I have seen guys push it up against a unmovable object then place in high gear and short across starter but this is dangerous. I have also seen people chain the tractor to a truck and let the truck driver hit his brakes. The reason for using high gear is that it puts a much greater load on the clutch. Think about the difference between trying to pull a heavy load in high gear as to low gear.

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K.LaRue-VA

01-09-2007 20:06:44




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 Re: Just goes to show.... in reply to ozbo, 01-09-2007 17:39:23  
Yep, and like they will tell you once it has stuck, it seems to be more likely to stick again, when you least expect it. Murphy is always lurking.



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Dunk

01-09-2007 20:15:43




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 Re: Just goes to show.... in reply to K.LaRue-VA, 01-09-2007 20:06:44  
Yep!!

Mine was caused by my front tranny seal leakin on my clutch, and swelling it.

It got to where pushing in the clutch did nothing, you had to jerk her out of gear.

I have always run my bushhog without an ORC (Yes I do have guardian angels that look out fer me).

But that dope on my clutch got me too skeered to use her, till I fixed that!!



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K.LaRue-VA

01-09-2007 20:35:45




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 Re: Just goes to show.... in reply to Dunk, 01-09-2007 20:15:43  
Yep, one of mine was stuck and once I got it broke loose I got the brite idea to slip the clutch and try to get it hot enough to cook off some of the crud. It worked! It got really hot, but the fire that started inside the housing could have ruined my whole day!

Probably had something to do with all the stuff I sprayed in there to get it busted loose. Anyway, I guess it couldnt get enough air to become fully involved. The fire went out before I could figure out how to discharge a fire extinguisher with a 3" nozzle through the 1" timing hole.

No damage, but the clutch was stuck again the next morning, so it didnt fix the problem. I split the tractor and replaced the clutch and seals while I had it apart.

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old

01-09-2007 19:35:51




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 Re: Just goes to show.... in reply to ozbo, 01-09-2007 17:39:23  
Thats why I always tell people to mak sure they have run to drive and people are out of the way. May self the only safe way to do that is a 40 arce field LOL.



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Dunk

01-09-2007 18:22:48




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 Re: Just goes to show.... in reply to ozbo, 01-09-2007 17:39:23  
Hang in there, ozbo!!

And PLEASE don't git hurt!!!




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jognosh

01-09-2007 18:11:47




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 Re: Just goes to show.... in reply to ozbo, 01-09-2007 17:39:23  
Had to chuckle reading your post. About 10 years ago the clutch stuck on my 8N. I tried all the things you did, except hitting my truck. I tried pushing up against a small tree, but the tree bent and Henry climbed half way up before he stalled. There he was with his front wheels 4 feet off the ground. Not much I could do, so I tied the pedal down and left him there. Couple of days later he climbed back down himself, and the clutch has been fine ever since. I prop the pedal down now when I leave him sit. Don't want him climbing any more trees.

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FarmerDawn

01-09-2007 18:27:34




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 Re: Just goes to show.... in reply to jognosh, 01-09-2007 18:11:47  
Gee. And here I went and split my tractor to get the clutch apart. If I'd only known about the tree method!! :-)



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