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Early 9N starter switch location

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8N'r

01-19-2007 13:46:25




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Hi all--can anyone tell me where on the dash the starter switch was located on the 1939-40 9N's?
The part # is 9N11450A, but I can't find a picture of the location on the dash. The master parts catalog shows a picture of the dash, but not the switch location, or at least I don't see it. Thanks, Tim

If you are lucky enough to own one, a picture would be great!




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Dunk

01-19-2007 16:35:10




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 Re: Early 9N starter switch location in reply to 8N'r, 01-19-2007 13:46:25  
I think yall have this one all figgered out.

Now I have a question that is close to this.

I can remember riding in a '49 ford pickup with my uncle, it had a key that turned on, but that was all it did (or turned it off).

It had 4 pedals in the floorboard, clutch, brake, foot feed (gas, accelerator), and then on the side of the hump the starter pedal.

I have seen folks (my dad and my uncle) that seemed to be able to use all 4 at the same time, and pumping the foot feed while doing it.

If I remember correctly all that starter pedal did was push another button on the starter itself.

Is that the way the one on the 9N worked?

I saw something somewhere that looked like it had mechanical linkage like that.

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murn ga

01-19-2007 17:05:17




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 Re: Early 9N starter switch location in reply to Dunk, 01-19-2007 16:35:10  
I think that was a Chev truck,Dunk. The 9N with a push button by the gear leaver pushed a rod and activated a starter switch located in front of the cowl. Same difference as the old truck.



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Indiana Jones

01-19-2007 16:55:25




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 Re: Early 9N starter switch location in reply to Dunk, 01-19-2007 16:35:10  
The old M151 jeeps we had in the Army before the CUCVs and Hummers had a set up sort of like that truck you're describing.



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Indiana Jones

01-19-2007 13:57:53




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 Re: Early 9N starter switch location in reply to 8N'r, 01-19-2007 13:46:25  
If the dash on yours is original, there will be a hole there where you can see the switch on Dan's. My late '39 didn't have the original switch when I got it, but the hole for it was there.



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8N'r

01-19-2007 14:16:56




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 Re: Early 9N starter switch location in reply to Indiana Jones, 01-19-2007 13:57:53  
The one I am looking at has the hole where Dan's switch is, but has another hole in the piece of sheet metal that connects the steering column to the dash. The parts catalog does not show that side of the column, but I see Dan's picture does. Dan's does not have any holes at that location. Thanks, Tim



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Dan

01-19-2007 14:46:31




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 Re: Early 9N starter switch location in reply to 8N'r, 01-19-2007 14:16:56  
They moved an ignition switch there shortly after the 1939 model. The entire dash is cast aluminum though, there is no sheet metal at all on an original 1939 dash.

HTH,
Dan



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8N'r

01-19-2007 14:53:49




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 Re: Early 9N starter switch location in reply to Dan, 01-19-2007 14:46:31  
So if there is an ignition switch by the steering column, this dash is probably original, and aluminum? The tractor has a late model 2N engine in it, and does not have I-beam radius rods, and a bad grill with vertical bars on it--thanks, Tim



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Indiana Jones

01-19-2007 15:08:23




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 Re: Early 9N starter switch location in reply to 8N'r, 01-19-2007 14:53:49  
You can use a magnet. Use a cloth with it if you're concerned about scratching paint.



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Dan

01-19-2007 15:06:33




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 Re: Early 9N starter switch location in reply to 8N'r, 01-19-2007 14:53:49  
Well yes, and no - probably original, but not an original 1939 dash. That version would be a steel dash from 1942 or so. Take a look at the ebay action I posted below - check out the dash. You can see where the ignition switch is mounted there. These are two piece dashes - the section where the ammeter is mounted is steel. Take a magnet to yours right next to the ammeter and see if it sticks. To find an original 1939 cast aluminum dash in good shape is rare, as they cracked quite a bit. You see different year parts mixed and matched on quite a few tractors as the parts are mostly interchangable.

Dan

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Dan

01-19-2007 13:52:56




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 Re: Early 9N starter switch location in reply to 8N'r, 01-19-2007 13:46:25  
third party image

Here is mine. See the starter switch on the upper left hand side of the dash next to the ammeter?

HTH,
Dan



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8N'r

01-19-2007 14:04:41




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 Re: Early 9N starter switch location in reply to Dan, 01-19-2007 13:52:56  
Got it--what is the toggle switch for?--- Thanks for the pic---Tim



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Dan

01-19-2007 14:44:36




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 Re: Early 9N starter switch location in reply to 8N'r, 01-19-2007 14:04:41  
The previous owner used that hole for the light switch (toggle). An ignition on light goes there - but they are as rare as hens teeth to aquire. Luckily - I located one and snatched it (for a pretty penny) and will be pulling that toggle switch out when I bring this one in for work.

Dan



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gahorn

01-19-2007 19:57:08




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 Early auto/truck starter pedals in reply to Dan, 01-19-2007 14:44:36  
The early auto/truck starter pedals on the transmission hump was a combination engagment/starter switch. By depressing the pedal, the first movement of the pedal pushed the starter-gear (what we later call the Bendix) forward to engage the flywheel ring gear. After the gear was pushed into engagement by the early movement of the pedal, the last little bit of pedal movement closed the switch, which was beneath the floorboards, mounted directly on the starter, and closely resembled the starter button on a 9N. That switch completed the electrical circuit to energize the starter motor.

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