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Off Topic- Small building project, advice sought

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RandyNAA

01-28-2007 13:01:01




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Ok, you folks have answered some crazy off topic questions, here is one more. Thanks in advance and thanks for all the tractor questions answered in the past.

Background:

I have a 32 x 64 ft., 90 year old gabled roof, farm barn. I do not farm, but use for storage of my 2 lawn tractors, 1953 Ford Jubilee, kid’s bikes, etc. and two picnic tables. I store the tables inside because we have lots of room and it has keep their finish like new.

Problem:

How to move a picnic table stored in a barn with only one person.

Materials:

One wood, 8ft picnic table (finished pine log construction)
Two casters, 360° swivel, 6 inch, pneumatic tires (Northern tool catalog)
Lots of wood, 2x4s, 4x4s, pallet tops, etc. Some PVC piping, various sizes.

Tools:

Basic hand tools, various power tools, including cordless drills, circular saw, jig saw. No drill press, table saw (could use neighbors), welding equipment.

Design:

Would prefer, not to attach the tires to table on permanent basis, in fact recently obtained second picnic table and would like to use the moving device for both.

Suggestions ?

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lonestarjeff

01-29-2007 08:15:01




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 Re: Off Topic- Small building project, advice soug in reply to RandyNAA, 01-28-2007 13:01:01  
Randy...I would say go & get two more swivel casters to make a sort of furniture dolly/platform, or return those swivel casters for two fixed casters & make a 2-wheel shoe to drop the legs on one end of the table into.

Jeff



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guest

01-29-2007 04:31:43




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 Re: Off Topic- Small building project, advice soug in reply to RandyNAA, 01-28-2007 13:01:01  
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If I need to move something in my
barn. The second floor of my PA
bank barn is supported by full size
timber (with bark). I would not
think of driving my 9N in there as
I am not sure how to rescue it when
it falls through.

I could always use the hay shuttle track
mounted on the peak, but I am afraid that it will pull down the roof or break more
rafters.
I just turn over the table and use a 2 wheeled appliance cart.

Good luck

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James Rader

01-28-2007 22:52:35




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 Re: Off Topic- Small building project, advice soug in reply to RandyNAA, 01-28-2007 13:01:01  
I move my picnic tables with a forked carry all like mentioned before. Try and devise a way to lift from the end of the table and not lift from the sitting area, they will fit through gates a bit better and won't take a chance in pulling the boards off and dropping the table (don't ask how I know this please). Going in through the end with board fork extenders (I use 2x6's on their side 2" side face down on the fork of attatchment adds height and will support the weight pretty well) I bolted the boards to two metal sleaves that just slide onto the forks (sleeves made out of scrap angle and plate steel welded up) slide the sleeves and boards on and away we go. I also have two pallets that have been modified as carry all boxes that I can use the attatchement for also, one attatchement many uses that way...

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diverjeff

01-28-2007 17:38:53




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 Re: Off Topic- Small building project, advice soug in reply to RandyNAA, 01-28-2007 13:01:01  
Hey Randy:

I have to assume a couple of things. One is that the picnic table has 4 legs on the ground and that the table is faily standard. If so, you could nail a couple two-by-fours length wise (8ft)on the legs then use the pvc pipe as rollers. Depending on the size and strength of the pvc, you should be able to push the table along a roller about 7ft. before having to put down another roller.

I like the other ideas though as their ideas seem easier on the body. Let the tractor do the work.

Safety & blue skies,

DJ

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Stumpalump

01-28-2007 17:21:48




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 Re: Off Topic- Small building project, advice soug in reply to RandyNAA, 01-28-2007 13:01:01  
Wait till spring when people throw away the old lawn mowers that won't start. Trashpick the wheels and screw two wheels to the legs on one side. Pick up the other side and wheel it where you want.



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vtscott

01-28-2007 14:00:36




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 Re: Off Topic- Small building project, advice soug in reply to RandyNAA, 01-28-2007 13:01:01  
A picture would be an easier way to explain this, but this is how I move my 8 ft. picnic table by myself.

I lay a furniture dolly down, the turn the picnic table upside down on top of the dolly, then lift the other end an roll to where you want it.

Or I just wait for a friend or in-law to stop by and put them to work.

Good luck,

Scott



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Bob

01-28-2007 14:38:06




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 NO FAIR!!!!! in reply to vtscott, 01-28-2007 14:00:36  
NO FAIR!!!

Since this is a tractor site, the solution HAS to involve a TRACTOR, or, better yet, the need for ANOTHER tractor!



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vtscott

01-29-2007 13:55:14




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 Re: NO FAIR!!!!! in reply to Bob, 01-28-2007 14:38:06  
Sorry, my bad,

Any excuse for another tractor is a good one.

That does not mean you can not drive the N out to the picnic table to survey the situation.

Scott



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roger '40 9n

01-28-2007 17:57:40




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 Re: NO FAIR!!!!! in reply to Bob, 01-28-2007 14:38:06  
Well iffn you want to use an N to move the tables-- here is my suggestion:

Make an a-frame like an oversize wheelbarrow.
Kinda like a big handtruck with one wheel.
Put pins in the handle end of the frame so it fits the three point hitch lift arms on your 'N.
Roll the table on to the frame so that the table is upside down on the frame -- lift with the tractor. You now have a one wheel picnic table trailer.

Roger in Michigan

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Bob

01-28-2007 13:14:17




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 Re: Off Topic- Small building project, advice soug in reply to RandyNAA, 01-28-2007 13:01:01  
Put a 3-point hitch "carry-all" on the Jub, and use it like a forklift to carry the tables, as needed. Bolt a couple of planks to the "forks" to lengthen them, if needed.

Cost, about $100.00 @ Northern Tool, or, perhaps Harbor freight.

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monomechanical

01-28-2007 20:35:45




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 Bob's Rule in reply to Bob, 01-28-2007 13:14:17  
Never use one tractor to do a job when two or three will do.

Purchase two Ford tractors of similar size and h.p. (Always have third tractor ready in case 1 or 2 will not start.)
Park both tractors next to each other.
Attach carry-all to each tractor. Lower carry-all's as far as possible.
Pause for beverage and/or refreshment.
Space four 2x4x10 footers equally across both carry-all's to make one bridge/platform. Place two legs of picnic table on platform, long dimension perpendicular to tractor. Wrap tow-strap around table and attach each end to carry-all.
Pause again for re-energizing beverage.
Wait 12-24 hours depending on beverage.
Enlist trustworthy friend to drive other tractor.
Lift three pts. in synchrony. Drive out of barn.

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old

01-28-2007 16:50:26




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 Re: Off Topic- Small building project, advice soug in reply to Bob, 01-28-2007 13:14:17  
I took one like that and rebuilt it. It now has longer fork arms on it and I can hook it both to the front end loader or the 3 point. I used 2 pieces of 1/4 by 3 inch steel to extend the fork part of it works good as long as your careful about how much you lift on the ends that is



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Sean (TX)

01-28-2007 15:31:42




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 Re: Off Topic- Small building project, advice soug in reply to Bob, 01-28-2007 13:14:17  
Great idea...More work for the tractor and less for you.



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YTSupport

01-28-2007 15:18:03




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 Re: Off Topic- Small building project, advice soug in reply to Bob, 01-28-2007 13:14:17  
excuse the intrusion in the thread. I'm testing that the board is up. (BTW, I have one of those, works great for light loads and you can bolt a box on to carry your heavy tools out to do fence work and such).



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