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John Diercks

01-31-2007 12:30:05




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Any advice on where I can purchase a sediment bowl and shut-off that DOESN'T LEAK? Is there a trick to getting one not to leak?




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Beargap

02-01-2007 07:20:11




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 Re: Sediment Bowl in reply to John Diercks, 01-31-2007 12:30:05  
I bought a replacement sediment bowl/fuel shutoff off the internet, it was a visual exact match, but would NOT shut off the fuel completely. I lost about a 1/2 tank before figuring that out. Then I went to TSC and bought one of theirs...looked identical and also leaked. I took it back and checked all they had in stock by closing the valve and blowing through it...ALL of them leaked! So, I got my old original unit, cleaned up the valve of all the crud and reinstalled it. It works.

=Vic=
Bear Gap, PA

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Rick from Paso

01-31-2007 22:23:49




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 Re: Sediment Bowl in reply to John Diercks, 01-31-2007 12:30:05  
Any trick to getting the bowl off without breaking it? I have a new neoprene gasket I bought from Napa as suggesting by the 50 tips article. Can't seem to get the bowl off, I guess I could try prying it with an exacto knife.



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Bruce (VA)

02-01-2007 05:13:06




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 Re: Sediment Bowl in reply to Rick from Paso, 01-31-2007 22:23:49  
Remove the bail & gas line & try using short bursts of air from your compressor. Keep your hand under the glass. Next step, fill the bowl w/ carb cleaner. Don"t use gasket sealer on these gaskets.



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John Diercks

01-31-2007 18:01:17




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 Re: Sediment Bowl in reply to John Diercks, 01-31-2007 12:30:05  
what is the NH part number?



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Dunk

01-31-2007 18:23:48




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 Re: Sediment Bowl in reply to John Diercks, 01-31-2007 18:01:17  
Don't hold me to being right.

Click on the link and put 2N9155B in the part search.

It is a NH dealer, but others know lots more than I.



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Dunk

01-31-2007 18:24:27




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 Re: Sediment Bowl in reply to Dunk, 01-31-2007 18:23:48  
The price sure seems high enough.



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Dunk

01-31-2007 18:29:01




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 Re: Sediment Bowl in reply to Dunk, 01-31-2007 18:24:27  
Here is the description off of the parts diagram on that site.

FILTER, FUEL 2N9155B

Fuel Sediment Bulb & Valve Assy., Years: 01/01/1939-12/31/1952



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Hobo,NC

01-31-2007 17:31:57




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 Re: Sediment Bowl in reply to John Diercks, 01-31-2007 12:30:05  
4 places it kin leak maybe 5 if it has a extra place to install the fuel line and blocked off wif a plug.

1) were it fit’s the tank 2) were the bowl fit’s the body 3) were the furl line connects 4) were the shut off goes into the body


Yow will have to figger out were it leaks, A new OEM or a aftermarket kin leak you have to figger out were it leaks. Problem izz a little gas will spread out so fast you kin not see were it coming from and its clear. If you have sum compressed air you kin blow around it till you find the leak. You kin turn the fuel off and shoot sum talcum powder, baby powder on it turn the fuel back on to see iffin you kin find the leak. If you have a copper fuel line that’s a big problem cuzz the nut will bottom out before it seals the flare.
If its leak’in around the shut off you kin tighten the stem retainer nut to squeeze the pack’in around the stem. Fer the bowl git a neopem gasket to replace the cork. I have had only one aftermarket that gave me a fit on the leak’in deal and I had to thghen the stem nut so tight it izz a bear to turn on and off. I spec the original seal behind the stem nut izz leather like all the other original seals. Leather does swell when it izz wet. So when I git one that leaks its just a nutter day in paradise fer a mechanic. You did not say were it leaked and wish fer a lick and stick it deal good luck.


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Dunk

01-31-2007 18:43:00




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 Hey Hobo in reply to Hobo,NC, 01-31-2007 17:31:57  
I have a copper line on mine.

Maybe soon I can think to git a picture.

Due to yer post I may have to take it off and get a picture of it.

I made it, and I thank I also did the double flares on it (for some reason I believe that true), I have been sitting here for over an hour trying to remember how I did that, and my CRS won't let me.

I do agree that it can be hard to do with copper and a flaring tool, because the steel flare is a double flare (out and back in).

You make me think too much sometimes, and that is a GOOD thing!!

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Ross Pugh(NC)

02-01-2007 06:47:33




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 Re: Hey Hobo / Hey Dunk in reply to Dunk, 01-31-2007 18:43:00  
Sounds like ye CRS may be progressing into the next stage known as CRAFT. Figure that one out. It is much worse than CRS.



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Hobo,NC

01-31-2007 19:33:00




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 Re: Hey Hobo in reply to Dunk, 01-31-2007 18:43:00  
i have posted the zack lenght the steel line needs to be and best i remenber its 26 3/4" long and kin be bent wif yer thum, so iff one does not have a double flar'in toll he kin have it cut and flared and have a $25.00 fuel line. Git rid of that copper line it kin also be a problem at the fit'in at the carb. The parts were made to use steel lines. I now cut to around 26 1/4" cuzz I have got real good at the double flare deal, the x-tra 1/2" lets ya cut out a bad flare and re-flare if needed, gotta rememember I make mistakes to.

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Russ SoCal

02-01-2007 08:49:00




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 Handy little puppy in reply to Hobo,NC, 01-31-2007 19:33:00  
I get brake line from the local auto parts store and have a bargain bin tubing bender.
Russ



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Dunk

01-31-2007 18:55:12




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 Re: Hey Hobo in reply to Dunk, 01-31-2007 18:43:00  
This seems to have given me an obsession. LOL

I don't know if I did it or not, but I was just thinking you could grind the bottom few threads off of the flare nut and seal a single flare copper tubing.

Ahhh Redneck Engineering at it's finest.



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Hobo,NC

01-31-2007 19:21:28




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 Re: Hey Hobo in reply to Dunk, 01-31-2007 18:55:12  
Ahhh still will not werk, go steel and fergit it.
The problem izz folks want a lick’it and stick’it deal and it aint gonna happen most of the time so gotta be a bad part. Iffin yer mechanic looked at it this way then yer car would never git fixed. Course there are repair shops that take only meat and gravy and toss me the bones so I have‘at figger out how to make a living wif just bones . Only one guy said he new wer hiz leak wuz no one else did. Like I said its just a nutter day in paradise to me.

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Dunk

01-31-2007 19:52:51




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 Re: Hey Hobo in reply to Hobo,NC, 01-31-2007 19:21:28  
The problem here as I see it, is in theroy I know you are no doubt right.

But I have been running my copper line for nearly 20 years with out a leak.

I will have dreams (read nightmares) about this all night.



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Dan

02-01-2007 05:12:19




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 Re: Hey Hobo in reply to Dunk, 01-31-2007 19:52:51  
My own NAA Rustbucket is running on a copper line the previous owner installed. Worked fine, doesn't leak, and is formed to the tractor - so I put it back on.

Works for me.

Dan



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Hobo,NC

02-01-2007 08:52:28




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 Re: Hey Hobo in reply to Dan, 02-01-2007 05:12:19  
Copper will give way in time its soft and after a few hard tighten jobs will expand out. Also the flare kin not stand vibration fer long and the flare will crack. Your call, You do know its not original and I know you like to put’em back like original or better than OEM so why did you take a chance on the fuel line. I don’t think I have ever see a copper fuel line used on enny thing from the factory that should tell ya sum’in

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schultz47

01-31-2007 15:46:11




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 Re: Sediment Bowl in reply to John Diercks, 01-31-2007 12:30:05  
I have the same problem. Bought a new one at TSC. It leaks! Will have to get one from the NH dealer.



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Jetman8N

01-31-2007 15:38:58




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 Re: Sediment Bowl in reply to John Diercks, 01-31-2007 12:30:05  
I tried to rebuild the one that came on the tractor. Leaked through the valve and the valve stem packing. Tried two rebuild kits.
Bought a bowl from the internet. leaked through and around the valve stem packing.
Went to the Ford (Ford NH) dealer and payed $34 for one. Doesn't leak, looks good, and I'm happy. I figured that being able to shut off the gas and not having it leak was worth the difference. Should have started at the Ford Dealer.

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Dunk

01-31-2007 16:43:26




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 Re: Sediment Bowl in reply to Jetman8N, 01-31-2007 15:38:58  
I am assuming that it is still sold (I can't believe it isn't).

A plumbing supply house should have graphite impregnated packing string to go under the nut to stop the valve stem from leaking.

It should cost $1 or less fo a package that will last the rest of your life.



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Dunk

01-31-2007 16:54:03




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 Re: Sediment Bowl in reply to Dunk, 01-31-2007 16:43:26  
Ok, I was a little off on the price.

$2.54



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Ross Pugh(NC)

01-31-2007 14:52:34




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 Re: Sediment Bowl in reply to John Diercks, 01-31-2007 12:30:05  
If ye are talking about the cork gasket, soak it in gasoline before installing, This makes the gasket more pliable. Install it while still wet. Solved my problem.



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OH Boy

01-31-2007 14:14:51




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 Re: Sediment Bowl in reply to John Diercks, 01-31-2007 12:30:05  
I tried the TSC ones and they all leaked. I finally had to bite the bullet and go to New Holland Dealer. Cost twice as much but at least it did not leak.



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gshadel

01-31-2007 13:51:13




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 Re: Sediment Bowl in reply to John Diercks, 01-31-2007 12:30:05  
I bought 2 leaky shut-offs... one from TSC, one from an auto parts place, then I finally got a GOOD one that works great from my local Ford New Holland dealer. I tried to order one off this site twice, but they kept sending me the @#$% wrong one! The part# matched the one in their catolog, but the shut-off looked like it was for a Farmall. I called them & returned, and they sent me the wrong one again... That was a couple years back, you may have better luck than me. I've also heard the local warehouses that fill the orders for this site vary, some have better track records than others.

George

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