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rlowhorn

02-24-2007 09:19:35




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I know very little about tractors. I received a tractor from the estates of my father a couple of years ago and have been trying to keep it. In this process I have done some things to keep it running, but have run into a problem with the hydraulics recently that I have not been able to figure out. The tractor is a 9N (SN 9N160339)and I think a 1944 from the number. I was using it to move some heavy trash (old trees) and was using the lift to carry some of the stumps. The lift stopped working. PTO still works. Have I damaged the hydraulic pump? Are there some simple steps that I can take to dtermine the problem? Anything would help.

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rlowhorn

03-02-2007 15:39:34




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 Re: 9N hydraulics problem in reply to rlowhorn, 02-24-2007 09:19:35  
Thanks everyone.

I reached down, took hold of the control value; pushed it in and out; and everything works.



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ZANE

02-24-2007 17:13:31




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 Re: 9N hydraulics problem in reply to rlowhorn, 02-24-2007 09:19:35  
The 9N-TO Ferguson lift has no position control.To maintain the lift at a given position the hand must constantly be on the control lever to continually re adjust. I can fix that for you if you will Email me at wzsherman@aol.com or see the link

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OH Boy

02-24-2007 15:58:27




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 Re: 9N hydraulics problem in reply to rlowhorn, 02-24-2007 09:19:35  
I doubt you have damaged it in any way, the control linkages on these tractors can be a little fussy sometimes.

Has the hydraulic fluid been changed recently? If not, it may just be some debris has lodged in the control valve (inside the hydraulic pump). A fluid change would probably fix this.

Or, it could be the linkage is temporarily 'stuck' out of position causing the control valve not to function correctly. I have had this happen to me when I backed into a pile of snow too hard with my blade. It pushes on the top link real hard and that will move the linkage around in there.

What I would do is remove the inspection covers on each side, with engine NOT RUNNING, and stick one hand down in there on the control linkage where it connects to the pump. At the same time move the control quadrant up and down, so you can determine if the control valve is sliding in and out of the valve body smoothly. You might have to kind of pull/push on it with your hand that is inside the tractor, to free it up if it stuck on something.

After you determine the valve is moving freely, remove your hands and start the tractor up and see if the lift doesn't start working again.

While you have it opened up, take a look inside there for any obvious hydraulic fluid leaks or drips. Also, any 'swirling' of the fluid at the back side of the hydraulic pump. There shouldnt be any. If there are then you have leaky seals or perhaps a blown pressure relief valve. Post back about this with a description if you see fluid leaking/swirling. The guys will tell you what to do to fix it.

If the fluid has not been changed in a few years or it looks 'milky' (which means it has water in it) I would reccommend changing it. There are three drain plugs on the bottom of the tranny and rear end. Five gallons (or close to it) will drain out so make sure you have an adequately sized vessel to collect it in.

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rlowhorn

02-24-2007 16:08:36




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 Re: 9N hydraulics problem in reply to OH Boy, 02-24-2007 15:58:27  
Thanks. I will chech your suggestions out and get back.



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Ross Pugh(NC)

02-24-2007 14:57:37




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 Re: 9N hydraulics problem in reply to rlowhorn, 02-24-2007 09:19:35  
This may help ye later . Ye tractor is a 1944 as ye said but it is not a 9N, it is a 2N. All 2N serial numbers began with 9N and also had most part numbers with 9N prefix. Others can help ye more with ye hydraulic problems than I can.



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rlowhorn

02-24-2007 16:10:43




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 Re: 9N hydraulics problem in reply to Ross Pugh(NC), 02-24-2007 14:57:37  
Thanks. Good to know what you are working on.



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Tom N MS

02-24-2007 10:54:55




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 Re: 9N hydraulics problem in reply to rlowhorn, 02-24-2007 09:19:35  
While trying to lift something. Remove the side cover where thd dipstick is located. With flashlight look up inside and see if you see a stream of oil coming down from the top. A drop now and then is normal..If you see a stream post back. If no stream from the top and while th cover is off look down low to the bottom of the sump under the PTO shaft. See if you notice lots of turbulence..You will see some swirl because of the PTO shaft turning but excessive turbulence means bad safety valve....Let us know your find...

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rlowhorn

02-24-2007 16:09:45




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 Re: 9N hydraulics problem in reply to Tom N MS, 02-24-2007 10:54:55  
Thanks. I will chech your suggestions out and get back.



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BOB IN TN

02-24-2007 19:09:58




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 Re: 9N hydraulics problem in reply to rlowhorn, 02-24-2007 16:09:45  
Also ckeck the four bolts on top of the pump (two on each side). There should be no leakage at all. If there is, tighten down until leak stops.



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