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Radiator in Electrolosis tank?

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Ball Bearing

02-24-2007 17:19:42




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Will it hurt my 2n radiator to spend the nite in the electrolosis tank? I just want to clean it up for painting. Thanks Much. BB




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ZANE

02-25-2007 05:23:45




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 Re: Radiator in Electrolosis tank? in reply to Ball Bearing, 02-24-2007 17:19:42  
Don't do it! Radiators are made of non iron metals and electrolisis will remove the copper, brass, bronze, lead or aluminum metal from the radiator and a radiator is made of the thinnest possible metal possible in order to allow the exchange of heat to the air through the thin metal. You are likely to end up with nothing but the skeleton of what used to be a radiator and render it un repairable even by the best radiator man.

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Henry M

02-25-2007 04:45:57




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 Re: Radiator in Electrolosis tank? in reply to Ball Bearing, 02-24-2007 17:19:42  
Ball Bearing

I did the rad on the 420 JD in the electrolysis tank. It had both washing soda and NH4OH in it. It came out great. I was kinda leary of the different metals and I did not just put her in for the night. Don't remember how long but I checked during the day and did it to my satisfaction. Enter at your own risk, i suppose.

It must have had more than the tanks left because the tractor runs fine with it.

I got a tip on repainting the finned part. I mixed up some flat black (think it wa rustoleum) way too thin with thinner. Then set the air on the gun way up and blew the thin paint thru the fins. Made a nice coating. Had the tanks and sides masked off. Then masked the fins and apinted the tanks and sides to whatever - JD Green in this case. I guess My N will be Gloss Black for the tanks and sides.

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OH Boy

02-24-2007 17:44:57




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 Re: Radiator in Electrolosis tank? in reply to Ball Bearing, 02-24-2007 17:19:42  
Depending on what the electrolyte in your solution is I think it would be ok. I wouldnt use any kind of acid.



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Ball Bearing

02-24-2007 17:56:47




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 Re: Radiator in Electrolosis tank? in reply to OH Boy, 02-24-2007 17:44:57  
I'm using lye. BB



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Cliff (VA)

02-26-2007 05:10:13




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 Re: Radiator in Electrolosis tank? in reply to Ball Bearing, 02-24-2007 17:56:47  
Lye will eat up aluminum with a vigorous reaction that releases lots of (explosive) hydrogen gas.

How do I know? I tried to clean a grease screen in Purple Power one time. Ended up with just a shadow of a screen.

HTH

Cliff (VA)



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jmixigo

02-24-2007 20:50:49




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 Re: Radiator in Electrolosis tank? in reply to Ball Bearing, 02-24-2007 17:56:47  
If the solution is at all strong come mornin you will have no radiator just the steel brackets will survive.



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Dave(TX)

02-24-2007 19:07:28




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 Re: Radiator in Electrolosis tank? in reply to Ball Bearing, 02-24-2007 17:56:47  
I'd use sodium carbonate (soda ash) - NOT sodium BIcarbonate - as it will leave a residue.



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MikeT

02-24-2007 21:56:34




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 Re: Radiator in Electrolosis tank? in reply to Dave(TX), 02-24-2007 19:07:28  
Hey Dave -

I've restored 100's of planes (cast iron wood planes). Sodium Carbonate and Sodium Bicarbonate will both leave a residue. After taking out of the tank, the object should be washed with hot soapy water and rinced with cold water. If not, then the residual sodium of either will start reacting (with iron), with time, and will make a mess.

The advantage of S Carbonate is a higher ion flow at a given voltage. The advantage of S Bicarbonate is better cleaning of the cast iron (IMO). I have large variac's and am not voltage limited so I use the latter in my tanks. But the advantages between the two are of only slight difference. I'll take whatevers handy with only a slight preference for NA2CO4.

I've never used electrolysis on anything except cast iron or steel. So, can't comment on it's effects on other metals.

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gahorN

02-24-2007 20:59:45




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 Re: Radiator in Electrolosis tank? in reply to Dave(TX), 02-24-2007 19:07:28  
Your local radiator shop will put in the vat for cleaning for just a few dollars. That's what I'd do.



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Ball Bearing

02-25-2007 04:20:37




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 Re: Radiator in Electrolosis tank? in reply to gahorN, 02-24-2007 20:59:45  
Nearest shop is 40 minutes one way and I'm in N,Y,----Nobody does anything for "a few dollars" here anymore.



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dan hill

02-26-2007 04:39:38




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 Re: Radiator in Electrolosis tank? in reply to Ball Bearing, 02-25-2007 04:20:37  
A radiator shop will clean,check the flow rate.They will pressurize it and check for leaks under water.They will paint it .Radiator work take a lot of skill.Some times its better to pay to have the job done right.



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Ross Pugh(NC)

02-25-2007 06:34:58




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 Re: Radiator in Electrolosis tank? in reply to Ball Bearing, 02-25-2007 04:20:37  
A forty minute trip and a professionally cleaned radiator still sounds better (at least to me) than having to buy a new Chinese made radiator that still needs to be altered to make it fit right. A year later ye won't miss what ye spend on the pro cleaning and ye might see a tractor or two fer sale on that forty minute ride.



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Tom N MS

02-25-2007 08:31:25




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 Re: Radiator in Electrolosis tank? in reply to Ross Pugh(NC), 02-25-2007 06:34:58  
Good point. I don't want to, nor should I have to do any "rigging" to make it fit..



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