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Arthur Strader

03-11-2007 06:36:58




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First,let me thank everyone for the info on my
solenoid problem.However I still have the problem
I switched the new solenoid around so the term
marked BATT was going to the starter.However what
ever I do when I put the battery to either term
the tractor tries to start,even with the ign sw
off,the tractor never starts before it is turning over.I have checked and cleaned every
term on the tractor,still does the same thing.
Any suggestions on what I should do next,and what to check or test.Or should I just haul it to the junkyard.

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Phredd MN

03-12-2007 07:47:22




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 Re: Still Stuck in reply to Arthur Strader, 03-11-2007 06:36:58  
If you give up on it, I can haul it to the junkyard for you. $20 Cheep!



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Dell (WA)

03-11-2007 12:28:34




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 Re: Still Stuck in reply to Arthur Strader, 03-11-2007 06:36:58  
Author..... .theres 3-types of starter solenoids. 3-terminal, 4-terminal, 4-terminal auto/truck. The ONLY one that is "correct" for your tranny safety interlock starter thumb button is the 3-terminal. Mount it ontop of starter motor so the little middle terminal is facing the block and hard to gitt-too. New 3-terminal tractor solenoid $15 (cheap).

And WHY??? would you connect the starter solenoid terminal labeled "BATT" to the starter motor??? yer logic escapes me???..... respectfully, Dell

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john hunt

03-11-2007 07:24:24




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 Re: Still Stuck in reply to Arthur Strader, 03-11-2007 06:36:58  
third party image

ok on the solenoid does it have three termail on it the small termil should be point to the block if not in backward and i think that what you have done look at #1 and see if that what you did



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Dunk

03-11-2007 07:19:52




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 Re: Still Stuck in reply to Arthur Strader, 03-11-2007 06:36:58  
A solenoid is a very simple thing.

All it does is connect 2 terminals together or let them come apart, and not be connected, it connects them by using an electromagnet.

I am concerned you may have an automotive solenoid instead of one for your tractor.

Automotive solenoids work different to the one on on your tractor.

Automotive ones have power supplied to their coil from the switch, and have their cases grounded to complete the circuit.

Your tractor has power supplied to the coil from the battery terminal, and then ran to the switch where the switch grounds it to complete the circuit. If your wire going to the switch gets grounded anywhere else along the way it will energize the solenoid.

Here is something I just made to diagram how how your solenoid on your tractor is supposed to work.

You should be able to conect only the battery side to the solenoid, to the battery and do some testing on it. With only that hooked and not the starter side, nor the switch wire.

Then hook the switch side to it's terminal, the solenoid should do nothing, if it clicks then something is wrong, if it doesn't click, then you should be able to push the starter button, and it should then click.

Hope that helps.

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gahorN

03-11-2007 19:21:03




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 Re: Still Stuck in reply to Dunk, 03-11-2007 07:19:52  
Dunk, I'm impressed! That's a nice piece of work you did for a fellow N-er.



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Dunk

03-11-2007 20:08:17




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 Re: Still Stuck in reply to gahorN, 03-11-2007 19:21:03  
Thanks, gahorN.

We are all in this together...

And no one will git out alive.



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Bruce (VA)

03-11-2007 06:46:21




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 Re: Still Stuck in reply to Arthur Strader, 03-11-2007 06:36:58  
6v or 12v? Front or side distributor?



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