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RON BUD

03-28-2007 04:52:53




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I just acquired a clean 1948 8N to clears some brush and tap some holes for pipe fence, and I want to change the fluid, and check out the pump, and I want to be sure I am doing this correctly. The post hole digger works good but sometimes will not raise up all of the way while digging holes with all of this black gumbo soil we have here in North TX. Can some one kindly send me details on drain options and fill locations? The vintage manual is kind of vague.
Appreciate the info

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souNdguy

03-28-2007 05:28:37




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 Re: Hydraulic fluid changes in reply to RON BUD, 03-28-2007 04:52:53  
the N has a common sump system. the tranny, diffy, and hydro belly pump share 5 g of oil.

Oem oil was a 90wt gl1 mineral oil. Modern replacement is a UTF that meets CNH spec M2C134D.. ( most utf oils met this spec ). The 90wt can still be found as gl-1 at napa as part number 65-205 for a 5g pail. TSC also carries a gl-3? oil marked for ford trannies 39-52. A gl-4 oil that is yellow metal safe.. like a penzoil gearplus lube in 80w90 will also work.

There is one fill port by the tranny shifter.. and 3 drain plugs.. a pipe plug under the diffy.. start there.. then move to a 2" plug under the hydro pump. then move up to the 2" plug in the tranny.

Aech of the 2" plugs has a washer under it.. you should make a new one unless the old one is pristine.

You can use a veriety of things to make the new washer... thin leather sheeting, thick gasket paper, cork gasket material sheet, uh.. cardboard from a shoe, kleenex, or cerial box.. or an old innertube ( rubber sheeting ). Heck.. you can even BUY new gaskets if ya got money burning a hole in your pocket. I just use a razor knife and whatever gasket paper, rubber, cork, or thin cardboard I can find.. None of my tractors leak from drain plugs...

Spec is 5g.. but most of us like to fill a tad laees, and instead pull the bottom bolt inthe right side dipstick cover, and only fill to where oil starts dripping from that hole... might be 4.5 or 4.75g or so.

To test your lift, raise it and if it will stay up with some weight on it after tractor is off for more than a few minutes.. the hyd piston/cyl seal/rings are good nuff'.

If it has other problems.. email us back. The entire hyrdro system ( top cover and bottom pump ) can be R&R in about 8-9 hours from pulling into the garage to backing out and srubbing up all the spilt gear oil on your wife's concrete floor.. rebuild price varies on what you need.. gasket sets are pretty cheap.. relief is pretty cheap.. new piston is cheap.. some hard parts are a bit more.. like chamber parts.. or a new cyl.. etc..

Soundguy

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souNdguy

03-28-2007 05:28:28




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 Re: Hydraulic fluid changes in reply to RON BUD, 03-28-2007 04:52:53  
the N has a common sump system. the tranny, diffy, and hydro belly pump share 5 g of oil.

Oem oil was a 90wt gl1 mineral oil. Modern replacement is a UTF that meets CNH spec M2C134D.. ( most utf oils met this spec ). The 90wt can still be found as gl-1 at napa as part number 65-205 for a 5g pail. TSC also carries a gl-3? oil marked for ford trannies 39-52. A gl-4 oil that is yellow metal safe.. like a penzoil gearplus lube in 80w90 will also work.

There is one fill port by the tranny shifter.. and 3 drain plugs.. a pipe plug under the diffy.. start there.. then move to a 2" plug under the hydro pump. then move up to the 2" plug in the tranny.

Aech of the 2" plugs has a washer under it.. you should make a new one unless the old one is pristine.

You can use a veriety of things to make the new washer... thin leather sheeting, thick gasket paper, cork gasket material sheet, uh.. cardboard from a shoe, kleenex, or cerial box.. or an old innertube ( rubber sheeting ). Heck.. you can even BUY new gaskets if ya got money burning a hole in your pocket. I just use a razor knife and whatever gasket paper, rubber, cork, or thin cardboard I can find.. None of my tractors leak from drain plugs...

Spec is 5g.. but most of us like to fill a tad laees, and instead pull the bottom bolt inthe right side dipstick cover, and only fill to where oil starts dripping from that hole... might be 4.5 or 4.75g or so.

To test your lift, raise it and if it will stay up with some weight on it after tractor is off for more than a few minutes.. the hyd piston/cyl seal/rings are good nuff'.

If it has other problems.. email us back. The entire hyrdro system ( top cover and bottom pump ) can be R&R in about 8-9 hours from pulling into the garage to backing out and srubbing up all the spilt gear oil on your wife's concrete floor.. rebuild price varies on what you need.. gasket sets are pretty cheap.. relief is pretty cheap.. new piston is cheap.. some hard parts are a bit more.. like chamber parts.. or a new cyl.. etc..

Soundguy

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